…offer someone gold for a piece of raid loot.
For example, say I want the Ancient leaf from MC. It drops, but another hunter gets it. I then offer them x amount of gold for the leaf, they accept, and then trade me the leaf.
Anything against ToS here?
I mean… is it a GDKP? not exactly… can it trigger an automated system meant to track gold traded in a raid (as they stated was the method they were using)? Probably. Why tempt it.
It’s frowned upon in my raids for sure. Mainly because it leads to people rolling on things they don’t need to make a buck. Just one more annoying thing to police.
Generally it’s bad manners and you shouldn’t, but not explicitly against ToS (though like the other guy said you can easily trigger their auto-ban doing that).
In the end, besides the GDKP rule, the loot master makes the final call always.
yes. you can’t trade gold for loot.
yes, it falls under the SoD specific no GDKP rule as far a blizzard is concerned. so, you can be nailed for it.
what is the AH then?
Are items on the AH soulbound?
He wants loot and has gold?
on the AH players trade items they already own, not items that everyone doing the dungeon is equally entitled to.
They banned GDKP, which is a loot system for pug raids. People being willing to part with loot they won within a rolling system is not strictly GDKP, especially if the intent was to use the item until someone offered you up some coin in exchange for the item.
So basically I’d call it a bit of a loophole, and it may trigger a review if they are monitoring gold trading in raids, but as the ban states it shouldn’t resort in a violation. I wouldn’t be particularly concerned if I engaged in the behavior because what they are really after curbing is the negative social impact of GDKP raids rather than a one off sale of an item rightfully won. Besides that, if other raiders know you are selling your loot that may annoy them and get you kicked by the RL/LM.
However, if it became popular to roll for loot and then sell it in raid to bypass the concept of GDKP because “We’re not auctioning off items, we’re all rolling and then selling it off” it would be in violation of the spirit of the ban and Blizzard would likely update the policy. This happened with multiboxing ban when they banned broadcasting software so people switched to hardware setups so they updated their wording.
Yeah its against ToS. Saying “hey I will give you 200 gold for that item” is GDKP when it’s for raid loot.
They just had a big ban wave that a lot of people got caught up in for similar stuff. Not a “GDKP” run per say but gold and items being exchanged in a raid.
Simple rule is you cant exchange gold for raid items
The rules are the trade of gold for raid or dungeon drops.
Where do they state the specifics of what they are banning?
The only reference I’ve found is the statement about banning GDKP raids.
you know what, you should go for it! absolutely! You know what, dont even worry about what blizzard has said, they were just kidding.
obvious sarcasm
You asked why tempt it.
Why are you getting mad?
not mad
BUT~ i need blizzard to let me play paladin horde already and stop making me wait lol… ughhhhhhh
is it against TOS if the Raid leader says BF off Kazzak is HR and i offer him X amount of gold to let me HR it?
That is not the same as GDKP when only one single person is asking some random player in private to buy a piece of loot off of them for some gold. That is not how GDKP works and has nothing to do with GDKP.
Whoever the master looter is makes the final decision on raid loot.
If the ML accepted that deal, yeah it falls into the space where he’s putting himself at risk for a ban if anyone is upset from that raid.
You know that Blizz specifically doesn’t want that behavior, because it’s just GDKP-Lite. It’s just another workaround pay2win mechanic most of us want out of the game.
Some of the pugs I’ve flagged for that behavior did result in suspensions. That’s as clear a sign I need to not bring those types into any raid I do.
It’s stupid. Just don’t do it.
Yes. Any trading of gold for items inside a dungeon or a raid is considered to be GDKP per blizzard’s own definition of what they defined as GDKP near the end of phase 1. Most likely nothing will happen to you, but it is a violation according to them.