This has pretty much been my experience. Also
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And I’m a few pts shy of 2k so.
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I know this advice gets repeated ad nauseum and some people really, really just don’t want to - but honestly if you’re picking an off-meta class regardless of what it is:
Make your own keys as often as possible. When you run into someone good, ask to add them. When you see them on ask to do keys/invite them. Start doing each other’s keys, etc.
You’ll climb way higher and faster on whatever you were trying to run that season.
I’ve been playing super casually this season compared to what I’ve done before, and I spend very little time in queue - generally if I’m on and looking to do M+, I’ll be in one in a few minutes just by making a few friends and asking them to play.
This advice works for even the meta healers - but if you’re playing off meta, the community is VERY gatekeep-y about those specs the higher you climb. They don’t even need to be low tier specs - it can be B tier, but if they want that meta spec, you’re gonna have a hard time. And on top of that, signing up for a +6 or 7 key, you can be competing with someone who’s already 2500. It’s kinda just become a fact of the game that if you’re off-meta, that group has gotta be pretty desperate for your role or you need to be really overqualified for the key and right now the biggest “privilege” role that gets to skip that are tanks, not healers.
On my main I’m always grinding keys on day 1 so like this season I did m0, got my +2 key, pushed that to a +5, ran a couple of +5s and +6s with the goal of timing 1 of every key type on a +5 or higher. I didn’t achieve that on day 1 cause of long maintenance, but by day 2 I had everything timed on a +5/6.
That is basically instant invite on every key after and I just kept pushing. The biggest wall was getting into +10s because I was like rank 70th Holy Priest without a single +10. I finally got my key pushed to a +10, timed that, ran 3 more +10s with the same pug group, and the day after I got invited to every key.
I pushed my key to a +11, ran a few of those, and I get invited to 80% of the groups I apply too despite there being a Resto Shaman meta because my scores over 2600.
Now for my alts who have zero IO. What I’ve done in the past is not taken a key at all and bought a +10 key carry because at the end of that key you’ll get a +9 key. After that I push my own key (usually drop it down to a +7) because there’s a 0.0% chance I’m getting invited to any keys with no IO score. With running +9s though there is a lot of high IO players (2500+) who are dropping down there to farm for crests and trinkets.
It’s just a grind, but ultimately the only way to move up is by running your own key. Just be super picky about who you invite. Check their logs, raider io info, etc. I see a lot of people who apply to my +10s and +11s who have 4-5 failed of those keys.
Consider the Following: I love Holy, and I shouldn’t have to be forced to play something else.
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Then you can play Holy. It’s that simple - Holy objectively has the ability to time all relevant key levels. Is Disc better at M+? Yes, but if you prefer Holy, you can just play it.
If you find healing unfun, as your previous statement indicates, then why do it? It’s silly to do something you find unenjoyable in a video game.
“Just suck at what you like instead of the designers making adjustments to struggling classes.”
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That’s not, in-fact, what I said. I think that Priest deserves a top to bottom rework and examination, but literally nobody is forcing the average player to not play Holy.
I prefer pushing keys higher than 3s and enjoy raiding at difficulties higher than LFR. – It should be more enjoyable, it’s a game.
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You can push keys higher than threes and raid at higher difficulties than LFR. Yes, Priest needs improvements, but whining about you being ‘forced’ to not play something you like is nonsense.
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I beg to differ. I just applied to like 60 keys and got rejected from all of them despite having ranking. This is ABSOLUTELY going to force me to quit playing Holy/Priest in general if not the game in entirety.
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Have you tried making your own groups?
Yep. People either brick my key or leave. Which there should be some kind of penalty for I feel like. Like lose a spot in vault or somm.
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Tone-deaf people who are trying to dismiss player dissatisfaction with “just reroll” or “get gud” ignore the fact that holistic enjoyment of a game doesn’t just revolve around playing the spec that’s op or fun.
Sometimes people just have to compromise and play a feelsbad spec or class because they have a specific niche(like raid buffs) that the raid/group requires.
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Have you tried not being abrasive and understanding that the issue is with the community and class development? – Making our own groups is a Band-Aid to a Gushing Wound.
Oh… you’ve been shot in the neck? Have you tried applying pressure?
Oh… your GPU is on fire? have you tried turning off your computer and turning it on again?
Oh… your drowning? Have you tried swimming harder?
This is how you sound.
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I can agree with that. M+ Leavers should have a penalty.
I am the ONLY priest in my Raid Group – Combination of 2 reasons.
- Everyone is playing Shaman or Evoker
- We need Stam Buff and PI is nice to have as well I guess.
Edit:
- Shadow is Garbo at the moment and its more beneficial to have Stam provided by a healer instead of a C-Tier DPS.
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We are in the exact same situation, then. Yay.
I currently raid in 3 different guilds; in the first 2 every person who played priest last expac rerolled out of the spec, then in the 3rd I initially joined into 4 priests and thought “wow, lots of masochists here, at least I have a support group now”.
Then I was quickly promoted to core in less than a week; the other 4 priests rerolled to other classes and I am stuck as the sole priest again like the other 2 guilds.
If you dislike direct communication, that’s not an issue I can solve. I can sympathize with pugging being an absolute nightmare - I’ve just gotten into the season not too long ago myself. Priest not having mobility or a poison cleanse sucks butts, ditto for not having an interrupt.
The literal only thing I took contention with is saying you’re being ‘Forced’ to not play the spec you like. Which is just objectively untrue. I also like Holy - quite a bit, but prefer it as a raid healer as I feel it suits the environment much more naturally than it does M+, and the long ramp-time of Disc in raids just isn’t to my taste.
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Gonna be honest, if you’re struggling in 3s on Holy and you’ve got gear that’s around M0 level, you’re probably gonna struggle on most healers.
Like yes, the class could use some buffs, particularly in its dungeon utility. But no, Priest is not in dire need when it comes to throughput. There’s only about 100 keys done at 13 and Holy priest has done 12.
There is no sense arguing this "I WANT to play priest but I just can’t the spec is so bad 
"
If you want to play it, play it. You’ll be fine if you play well.
If you want to climb to title keys in pugs alone and that’s your goal, you shouldn’t play anything but shaman. It’s always been the case that if you’re looking for cutting edge content levels/pushing for the best of the best and you don’t want to make friends - then you have to play whatever the meta spec is, even if it’s only 1% better than the next.
This is a much more eloquent way to say what I was trying to say, tbh. Thank you.