Grievous is not as bad on fortified week as it is on tyrannical. Bosses die in 2.5-3 minutes compared to some of them taking 3.5-4 minutes on tyrannical.
Overall felt like a fairly easy week. At least as a holy priest we hard counter grievous and I can also mind control my own spiteful so that affix is almost a non-issue.
Most affix are absolute trash and kill the M+ community (mainly healers). This week was grievious + spiteful, awful combo for a healer. First you have to heal more and then you cant reg mana. Was super difficult to get any healer this week. Had one Nokhud 19 run and every trash pack I felt how awful it was to heal for our healer (415 druid) random. We had several deaths as well. Before the last boss the priest said something to the druid that he failed (indirectly) and he simply rage quit.
Next week we get explosive great another cumbersome trash week for healers. Blizzard is delusional with these garbage affixes its amazing. I am absolutely not surprised why WoW stagnates so hard, the devs are clueless mostly. Thank god they start to listen to SOME feedback in DF but as you can see we still have tons of massive issues like affixes and other stuff that arent getting fixed. Next Season we get no seasonal affix thank the lords but its still so fail not to remove all or atleast 2 affixes alltogether. Nobody likes these garbage designs.
Agreed, it’s irritating as all heck. I’d really like to see them change this to have the spitefuls not keep you in combat. Or just make mana not a thing in M+… preferably the latter 
I suspect it’s more that the general expectation is that it’s a healer problem. It’s not hard, per se, but Dragonflight is a very busy expansion for healers. I find I typically have less globals available to me than I did in Shadowlands, where being responsible for Explosives was very easy for me.
I typically run with a consistent group though, so when I ask for help on explosives I get it right away. I’d imagine PuGs probably don’t go so smoothly, so I could see healers being less inclined to PuG explosive weeks, get overwhelmed, and then get dumped on because they aren’t “doing their job”.
accurate but really not my problem at the end of the day. i’ll get every explosive i possibly can, but if you die to avoidable damage while i’m doing it… tough. not my problem. use your health pots 
Haha I mean, sure, that’s an outlook, and probably the right one to have when pugging if I’m being honest. Still, that doesn’t sound like an enjoyable experience so I can see why explosives may be a week where healers disappear 
Grievous isn’t really all that bad anymore though, not since they adjusted it so that most heals clear stacks. Someone in another thread said this might not apply for MW though, so maybe it’s a rough week for them? If true, that sounds more like a bug…
MW works fine; I actually find healing grievous on my MW pretty easy. vivify cleave is great for it, to say nothing of sheilun’s now that it’s better than ever.
The suggestion was that MW heals don’t remove stacks the same way that, say, applying rejuv for a resto druid does.
If that’s just completely inaccurate then yea, grievous is a very easy affix. The only issue this week is, as you mentioned, mana being a pain… well, that and spitefuls straight up deleting people if they get punched by them. That’s not a healer issue though… you can’t heal one-shots!
Yeah I never notice grievous as MW.
I get into it with other healers every now and then about this. If you die during a healer mechanic, it’s probably my fault. If you die when there’s not supposed to be any damage going out at all… That’s on you. If it’s a healer mechanic like Hyrja and you think I’m about to grab orbs, you’re a fool.
Only in the sense that when you healing through damage with awakened faeline and ancient teachings that healing doesn’t count as a “direct heal” so it doesn’t remove a grievous stack.
But even so the that it isn’t hard on a MW. They’ve been massively buffed since launch.
Really depends on the spec. The ‘stand’n’cast’ MW it’s fine, no worries. But for FW it’s rough on the mana because your heals don’t clear grievous stacks, which can quickly build up on higher keys.
“fistweavers” still cast heals, and they absolutely do clear stacks
ReM is almost always cast prior to damage going out, since it bounces around. In combat RSK is your main source of ReM and it doesn’t clear grievous. EF also another commonly casted FW spell that doesn’t clear. FLS I’m pretty sure doesn’t clear either. Maybe the new Sheilun’s does, I haven’t tested it.
So unless you’re talking vivify spam (which really is only done in emergencies since it is terribly mana inefficient), pretty much the rest of the standard FW kit does not clear grievous stacks.
And while Revival and Chi-Ji are both great for clearing stacks, they’re also something we can’t afford just to throw at random stacks because they’re needed for actual boss mechanics (or sometimes just hps heavy pulls in higher keys).
I’m not saying it’s impossible, but I do think it’s ridiculous how some affixes are a complete non-issue for some classes, and a real problem for others. If grievous is supposed to be a ‘healer check’ then let all healers deal with it. This whole ‘direct heals clears stacks’ is nonsense.
If I remember the conversation, it was specifically about Fistweaving, not the caster MW build. I don’t know enough about Monk healing to comment on the actual difference between the two.
Yea I wasn’t sure of the details either, which is why I raised it. A bunch of folks have clarified that it shouldn’t be too troubling.
Apparently it’s going to be moot though, as grievous is being removed and being replaced with other affixes. I can’t say I’m interested in in what’s coming, but in all fairness, I won’t be said to see Grievous go. It wasn’t hard, but it didn’t really add anything. It was just “heal somewhat more this week”.
I enjoy healing more during grievous. Everyone is taking damage and it’s good to dig into healing and using CDs to bring everyone up. However it stops me from pushing keys on my healer.
Going up in key level just means people get bursted harder which isn’t as fun to heal imo.
Yep, I did 4 20s instead of 8 last week solely due to grievous. It isn’t fun.