Is fire mage actually dead in 9.1?

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I have two fire mage friends who seem to think fire is dead next patch. Combust is slightly less frequent, burst slightly lower , No klepto.

But to me, these all seem like fairly small nerfs considering how strong the spec is. We still have 2 schools of cc, enough burst to 100-0 in a 4 second window if no CDs are traded , and crazy defensives between triune ward , alter time , block, cauterized , and general mobility.

To me it looks like fire is going from S++ tier to S tier. Not sure if I am misinterpreting the nerfs though as I am new to mage.

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Just go DH man

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Ive tried to play melee but I find it really boring .

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Fire will still be a God Tier spec.

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I’ve heard some people say Frost is probably going to be king, especially if the meta revolves around Locks or just wizards in general, but fire will still be the best for RMX and WMX.

Frost hasn’t been king in years though so it will be interesting to see.

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Good riddance.

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some say they had to take a hit due to gear scaling and if they did not adjust them a bit then they would be too oppressive

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So for starters, I agree that frost is looking viable in 9.1 and that is great.

I know locks can obviously play with frost mages , since it is a classic combo and ran in the awc 9.0.5 finals by C9. But literally 1 content patch ago in 8.3 the best comp was fire + destro , so I don’t think locks being meta means fire is dead.

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Don’t need to be king when everybody around you is Frozen Solid.

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Nah was top in BfA Season 2/S3 when playing mage druid

I mean I guess that’s a year ago though, if that’s what you meant

Still good with mage druid now too though, could see it being top tier

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Fire was a top 3 represented spec at 2200+ in bfa s3. in s2 it was top 4.

Frost wasn’t even close either season. So maybe it was good, but wasn’t close to king rep wise. That’s what I mean. The last time I remember Frost being the most represented Mage spec was WoD.

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Because representation shows the strength of a spec? Frost was just a lot harder to play honestly than LUL FIRE. Most were bad and wanted carried by EZ fire. Frost takes 10xs more brain cells to play than fire.

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Hey now - let’s not act like pressing frost bolt until another button lights up is a 200 iq rotation.

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when it comes a pure dps class, yes, representation certainly can, and does, show the strength of a spec.

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Fire was easier to play by a mile and is actually brain dead. Frost was still super strong.

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show me where i said it wasn’t strong.

i said it wasn’t king and the numbers show that irrefutably. you’re just looking for an excuse to argue.

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Pretty sure frost was played in the AWC in BFA…Am i remembering correctly?

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Don’t you mean 3 schools of CC? Or did I miss something? Dragon’s Breath (fire), Ring of Frost (frost) and Polymorph (arcane).

Fire will be fine and both Frost and Arcane will both be just as strong.

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Yeah that’s what I meant

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According to those irrefutable numbers survival was also dog that season :face_with_monocle:

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