Are they or no?? I am never playing game again I was just curious and I plan to be on fourms until sub runs out in a few weeks.
Warriors/pallys are king right now. Bdks have seen better days. How ever we aren’t the worst.
That being said bdks need abit more oomph. Pallys/ warrior/ druids can easily pull off you since they nerfed dmg for us.
Nope. The damage is non-existent. I’m not sure how BDK holds aggro in keys above 10.
You’re also squishy and don’t have any secondary mitigation until you drop to 30% or whatever it is. The spec is fool’s gold and is heavily kept at bay, I’m guessing because of PVP.
I’m thinking they need to just ban the tank role from PVP so they can fix their game.
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No it’s mid tier at best. High utility, but Low dps and squishy
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If you’re never playing again then why do you want to know? I’m genuinely curious
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Blood DKs are excellent tanks and top tier. Reaping affix is the only reason why warriors and pallys are played because of crazy aoe damage. Blood still has more utility than most tanks and don’t get caught in the fallacy that they’re trash because people are playing prot on the top keys. Those are just the 1% players that min max their group selection to complete +24s
I mean, Warriors deal a ton of damage, Reaping or no. They have stronger mitigation and damage, only giving up DG and GG for that.
Honestly you guys are all deluded. Bdk kicks butt for m plus. I consistently do more damage than Dps in both pugs and guild runs even when bonestorm isn’t up. AOe damage is only second to warrior in my experience and single target is whatever. I’ve never been out damaged or out tanked by a monk demon hunter Druid or pally EVER. To whoever says pally is better isn’t playing the game. Everyone is on warriors jock bc that’s all they used in the mdi. That was mostly done because warriors just have the best damage. It doesn’t matter that they are bad against magic damage and have bad kiting, when you are playing with literally the best healers and utility Dps in the world… they can take as much damage as they want they are just good Dps.
can we also make it clear that this patch was VERY clearly aimed at warrior above all else? I mean cmon, they literally had to make lady Jaina proudmoore, the mage of all mages, who’s abilities are all frost and arcane themed, deal physical damage. LOL! What a hand holding. And obviously reaping was too with their aoe but that’s fine bc DK is good with it too.
Mark my words next major patch when reaping is over and new raid has a ton of magic damage warriors will be a solid meh, nothing more nothing less. Bdk will rise again, pally will remain in the toilet with the fools that actually tank with them. All other tanks are irrelevant, except for monks but no one wants to play them.
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honestly, you’re just being biased. Have you tanked on anything other than a DK in BFA?
Yep, have a warrior only like 10 ilvls lower than this guy. AOTC on my main but tanked through most of heroic on prot warrior and also killed first boss in mythic. These are the only two tanks I play, and that’s because they are the only two worth investing time into right now. I’m not a god or anything on warrior but I’ve pulled a purple and orange healing and damage parse here and there. Only thing I notice on warrior is that big aoe burst damage and that my health doesn’t move much on melee swings. That’s about it. Feels like I could play warrior just about perfectly and be just as good if not have a very small edge on my DK depending on the fight. Or I could play DK normally and still be better. Which is why DK is still my main.
Highest you done is an 11 where tank choice is literally irrelevant. if you’re beating or coming close to DPS in damage then those DPS must be complete trash or like 100 ilvl below you.
bdk is at the bottom of tank dps
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I’m talking about all content not just m plus raiding or anything you name it. I’m just not a big m plus person so I don’t care about anything past a ten bc there’s no loot to gain from doing a 15 or higher. If I had a good group I could tank it fine. Blood DK is not worst damage like that’s just wrong lmao. Isn’t bear the bottom?
FOTM tanks come and go…Blood DK is eternal!
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You’ve never met a good Pally then? They’ve got their merits in M+.
Actually, no, everyone’s been riding the claptrain since 8.1 dropped it on us. Prot Warr is like a fourth DPS in most cases.
Spell Reflect says wot?
I don’t even know what you’re saying here.
Then you don’t play Prot Warr well?
I ain’t pushing crazy high keys but I have yet to fail to hit a timer in mythics when BDK is tank in group. And that’s true on all my toons pushing mythics. Only other tank spec I can say that about is prot warriors.
That’s more than just a player being good. That’s the kind of consistency you look for when pickin a tank spec.
The highest you’ve done is an 8. VDH and Guardians are the worst tanks and they can STOMP 8s if they have any braincells
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Except, y’know, the only arguably unreliable tank is Vengeance.
If you haven’t wiped out with a Warrior or DK, you either run one key a week or you consistently run with specific people.
what I was saying with the magic damage and kiting thing is in comparison to dk. While warriors have high mobility they have a very poor slow so while they can move if they have leap on cooldown their slow is nearly nonexistent. Meaning they have high movement but bad kiting. Dks on the other hand have lower movement but arguable one of the best slows in the game, and they are very good at kiting because of this. This is also talked about in a youtube video I saw for a tank comparison for the current tier.
Spell reflect is useful in some situations, but is not as throughput as dk magical damage mitigation. That is because warriors and dks have two different styles of mitigation. Warriors have high armor and block, both of which do not effect spells, ignore pain does what it can but they are still taking the raw damage without getting that health back.
Dks in parallel have AMS, which will counter many boss and trash mechanics instead of just reducing damage taken by 20 percent. Lower armor than warrior, but the main difference is in their death strike. Death strike heals based off 25 percent DAMAGE taken. not just physical damage which is what warrior is specialized for. Which is why dks have an edge on warrior for magic damage, their mitigation model accounts for spell damage which warriors only pad with ignore pain as they can.
You are deluded if you think paladins are in the toilet I agreed with most of everything you said til you said that garbo. We’re middle of the pack imo not the worst and not the best we do everything pretty dang well plus our cheese mechanics with aoe bubble taunt and BoP. We get another LoH style heal with our first light of the protector in wings. We’re a safe tank for healers imo
If you’re gonna play super high end content like pushing +13 and onwards, then BDK falls short in comparison to warriors and paladins.
You’re just a casua like me who does +12 at most? Then it doesn’t effin matter, they’re good enough.