Is Boosting really that bad?

Most people I see who bought a boost have io between 450 and 1000 but two or three chested 15s. Finding out who is boosted is kind of an easy thing to do, and you can even check logs to find out if they play well which they might regardless of being boosted. Still, the advertising, especially by Huokan, is completely obnoxious.

I’ve always said that the players are the worst thing about this game and the prevalence/acceptance of a boosting culture is just one instance of that.

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There’s nothing wrong with PvE boosting done within the rules. Please feel free to describe how such boosts materially impact your gaming experience.

I won’t defend PvP boosting for obvious reasons, but PvE boosting shouldn’t warrant backlash against any booster or buyer playing the game within the rules.

If it isn’t for real money I don’t care if anyone boosts. IMO it’s like paying someone to date you, but to each their own. :woman_shrugging:

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Do you what you like dood its all fair in love and war !

I wouldn’t go that far. When I buy a boost, whatever transmog/achievement/mount/title/whatever I get is forever and requires me to do nothing but show up. I don’t think paid dates work quite the same way, I guess.

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Yes any Form of boosting invalidates time investment

Because this game is all about fomo now. People boost for mogs, achievements, mounts and whatever else is going to be removed post patch or post xpac. This is the only reason I see for people boosting in pve content.

But I don’t think it’s an issue in pve. PvP boosting is a problem though.

I disagree. The problem is big businesses involved. There should be no “advertisers”, “franchisees”, or “brokers” in the game. Let guilds and groups of friends carry people on their own servers.

How does pve boosting harm your gameplay?

Not sure if you’ve logged in this xpac but guilds and groups of friends have gone down the toilet.

So you like the model where essentially corporations hiring employees run boosting businesses in the game.

It’s also a problem that the game has been changed to increase the learning curve and rush levelers into content they don’t belong in yet, while removing rewards to keep them from doing that content on their own. Also PvP has been totally sold out as cash carries are the only way to get to the point where you are geared enough to do what used to be casual content.

Meanwhile, elite players have been enticed into becoming carriers by the high gold cost of playing.

You can say, “Everybody should spend most of their time flipping on the AH like me and they’d all be rich, too.” I disagree completely. Lots of people have no interest in roleplaying a tycoon and would not find having to do that remotely enjoyable.

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Yes, it is.

A) It breaks the integrity of the game.
Titles, mount, achievement are framed in the game as items to be earned, not bought. When you buy them, you are breaking the frame, and therefore the integrity, of the game.

B) It is unethical.
It’s like me paying my grandson RL money to give me Boardwalk in Monopoly. It is corrupt behaviour based on a corrupt ideology that money should entitle people to anything they want. (Which is what led to the 2019 college admissions bribery scandal.)

C) It is dishonest.
Since the in-game framing is that those items are earned, it makes it look like the buyer earned them when they did not.

D) It casts doubt on, tarnishing, rewards earned legitimately.

Now I don’t have any of those high end rewards and probably never will but that doesn’t mean I can’t look at this behaviour and see it is a corruption of the game.

And sad because if folks are willing to sell out their integrity for a title in a game, they must be easily corrupted for real rewards in RL and last thing the world needs right now is more ethically-challenged people.

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No, I can say everyone should play the game the way they want to as long as it doesn’t hurt others’ gameplay.

If that means microprogressing with pugs is your thing, cool. If it means making gold and spending it on pve boosts is your thing, cool.

I am against boosting on a moral ground… but I agree with other people who cares?

I tend to agree that it’s just the people who want others not to have stuff that care

It’s mythics not a yacht club

Do you know this firsthand or just what you’ve read about on the forum from other players? Because there’s a huge difference in actually having seen and experienced something and just hearing about it to form a real opinion?

“Elite” players and guilds have been selling carries since forever, it started getting out of hand when aotc was introduced.

The advertisements in trade/LFG are bad, boosting itself isn’t something you can necessarily stop without a drastic shift in policy and enforcement.

Without that shift the best thing to do is make the availability of boosting less obvious, IMO.

Boosting should be banned. Sorry not sorry.

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Time is money, friend. When someone could “microprogress with pugs” for an entire patch or choose to buy an item in the cash shop to play now, you’ve got a Pay 2 Win mechanic.

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I mean this is an exaggeration. Boosting in PvP is definitely a problem and needs to be stopped but I have plenty of friends and myself included that pushed rating seriously for the first time this season and we’re doing fine, currently 1800 rating and my other friends are actually higher. We also had a late start to the season, I think we returned about a month ago.

It’s definitely discouraging and unfortunate when you face a max geared gladiator in a 1400 bracket but it’s still very possible to learn your class and climb the PvP ladder.

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Free carries vs paid carries. But must get high arena rating to do random bgs that used to be casual content before they became a currency farm where you can upgrade your leet gear by wrecking the experience of casuals. Yeah, whatever.

I don’t know what you mean. Are you saying that I climbed to 1800 by getting a free carry?

Yeah this a problem too. The gearing system is pretty awful and you can’t casually enjoy random BG’s even in fully upgraded honor gear but that’s another issue.