I didnt agree with it, but I could at least understand Baine. He was at least consistent with the character he has always been portrayed as.
And then he killed Horde soldiers to free an Alliance character to give send them back to the Alliance. At that moment he jumped the rails and went from mildly sympathetic to another one of Blizzards hack job Horde leaders.
Btw, he is totally being played and Sylvanas already had Derek under he control. If she can insta rez Sira and the other Wardens on Darkshore to turn and start killing Alliance, why does Derek need a prolonged ritual that takes days if not weeks? He just played himself.
Dude, I completely agree! I ( really ) hope that this whole Saurfang/Baine thing is a war strategy to gain the Alliance’s trust and get the Horde inside of Stormwind so the real war can start. Also, I refuse to believe that Saurfang (even Baine besides his close relationship with the Alliance) would betray the Horde like that. Although both of them do kinda “owe” the Alliance. I don’t know. We shall see…
Baine is a hero, he is doing the right thing (Saurfang too, but i don’t wanna go off topic). The others leaders are just watching and nod at Sylvanas, while she do all kind of atrocities.
I’m waiting for Blizzard to release 8.3 ,where we will have a quest where we will join to Baine and Saurfang in an epic and honorable assault over Sylvanas and his minios, and we will retake the Horde for the true Hordes. I know that will be happen.
He is in the middle of a war every time story goes somewhere. Everyone looking at the war from their own side.
Sylvanas: from a side of a dead chick that no need no life. She defy Living things and her Nathany-kun is doing what she wants — being a loyal pup. As I understand when somebody converted to undead they lose their empathy by most. Cause brain and cells aren’t functioning the same way they were before. This leads to more strict, logical and more rational thinking.
“when you want X you must do Y”
Taurens and trolls they all are about surroundings. Taurens about nature and empathy to it. Trolls about loa and praising the dead and spirits (another nature of the hidden world with its own rules).
Orcs are all about fighting with honor, dying with honor and being plane and simple … with honor. We already saw plenty of times where somebody from orc clans do something without honor — at the end happens to be killed or defied by own race.
So basically everyone is right and have their own experience to judge from. Baine as well.
Idk if you knew this (Or I very well could have read wrong, wouldn’t be the first time), but Garrosh didn’t know his weapon was poisoned. Though idk if the Mok’gora was supposed to be to the death… Either way, beside the point.
I do think Baine has a right to be outraged by Sylvanas’ actions. However, the way he goes about standing up to her isn’t exactly what I’d consider honorable. Dude should have had the marbles his father did and challenged her to a Mok’gora for the title of Warchief. Though that would end the x-pac rather early, obviously. So that’d never happen.
It’s more about the right approach to go against the Warchief than anything else, really. Because instead of going against her, they are hurting the Horde as a whole with the actions they have taken.
I don’t think so. For example, on the Blood Elf Heritage Armor questline, although the Blood Elves understand and are grateful for what Sylvanas did, it seems that this is all they are being grateful for. I could see Lor’themar supporting a confrontation with Sylvanas. I think that only Gallywix would support her…for clear reasons.
Are they really, though? I will admit that undermining the warchief through open acts of defiance in times of war does seem detrimental to the Horde, but at the same time, Sylvanas has made a lot of choices this expansion that don’t align with the original values of the Horde. I mean, c’mon, the entire war is essentially happening because of her. Is it worse for them to stand up to Sylvanas and risk instability for the Horde than tacitly agreeing with what she’s doing by doing nothing, and letting the Horde keep heading in the direction it is right now, which will probably end up in another Garrosh situation sooner or later?
