Is Archimonde alive?

Actually the belief was that they stay dead. That’s why they had to make the distinction because people were rightfully confused when the boss was Archimonde and when the community said “Must be the Alternate Reality one” Blizzard said “Oh no no no, it’s the same Archimonde from Hyjal! He’s back and here’s how!”

It’s also why Legion had a huge nostalgia hit for older players on Broken Shore because if you’ve been around a while you know most of those named demons who stare you down at the Tomb of Sargeras. Even the hunter epic quest demons are there. About the only named demons we didn’t see were Varimathras and Mal’Ganis which we later learned where they were instead.

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Yep, pretty much. I had to run Antorus multiple times just to be sure I got the whole argus making the demon’s “spawn timer shorter so technically they never die” mambo jumbo.

That’s like asking if Epstein is still alive… Of course! :dracthyr_nod:

WoW’s lore is like the emo girl in High School that isn’t doing it for a fashion statement, the less you know about it the better the whole picture appears.

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My best bet would be the “demon soul” factor, maybe?

In the Demon Hunter questline you get some insight on it if you sacrifice yourself for the quest. Illidan mentions “like me, you have an immortal demon soul”.

I’m guessing at some point your soul becomes demonic and that’s when you become a demon in essence?

And how would that work? Did all the other Illidans vanished in the other timelines? lol

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He is dead.

Even if the Mythic version of his encounter were to be declared non-cannon, we destroyed the Argus world soul so therefore, he has no means of ever coming back.

Argus only sped it up, it didn’t stop them from rezzing. But Mythic is canon, so he’s still all dead. lol

But during the Argus campaign, they implied that it was the world soul itself that allowed the demons to regenerate.

I don’t know who made that video and I don’t watch videos, but this is actual cited lore:

Demons killed outside of the Twisting Nether simply return to the Nether, where their souls drift until they are reborn.[29][24] When Sargeras expressed displeasure with the time it took for his armies to regenerate in this manner, the nathrezim suggested that they could infuse a nascent titan world-soul with Death energies to great a so-called “resurrection engine” that would allow slain demons to return almost instantaneously. The result of this scheme was the death titan Argus, through whom all soldiers of the Burning Legion would return upon their deaths.[30]

Is that from a Wowpedia page? If so can you link it?

Also, just click play and you’ll know what I am talking about. I copied the video from the timestamp where there is quest dialogue that states what I am saying.

The citations are from the novels and the game.

Edit to add: it takes a very long time to regen in the Nether, so the army won’t instantly pop back up. Every demon we kill now takes quite a while before we’d see it again.

Given what we have both linked, there is a lot of contradicting information it seems.

In case you haven’t clicked on the video, here is the specific quest I am referring to.

Also on that page you linked, it states this:

So really, both of us were right (and wrong at the same time).

Welcome to WoW. :frowning:

With wow anything is possible, I wouldn’t doubt them reconing them due to timelines. We have entered another phase of story telling so open up your window in you mind and get ready for wild ride.

I don’t think one contradicts the other.

The way I see it:

  • Demons respawn if killed outside of the Twisting Nether
  • Argus boosted the respawn mechanic in 2 ways:
    1 - If you die outside the Twisting Nether, you respawn quicker than normal.
    2 - If you die on Argus, due to it being in some sort of “border” but also due to your proximity to the dark titan himself, you will still be able to respawn.
  • Demons who die in the Twisting Nether itself just die.

Makes sense to me.

Demons die in the nether.
Other then that, they die but take a long time to come back without the aid of umm titan “interns”

WoW lore allows for trivial time travel by multiple different means. That means no one is dead, it’s almost canon breaking to declare someone permanently dead. Literally anyone can just reach through a low energy portal and yank anything from any point in time and space. Garrosh, a gigantic ham beast with a tiny brain and the magical abilities of your average sea urchin was able to saunter decades into the past to raise an army. Any player character could enchant a potato sack, reach their arm in, and pull 100 clones of Archimonde into the present. It’s weird to even consider such things as “is someone really dead?” in a lore set like WoW’s.

No. Archimonde was killed in the nether back during WOD, which means he dead dead.

Demons transcend all realities.