Just a quick question, do you typically use one over the other?
I’m thinking of removing ironfur from my spell bar simply because I use all the rage I get on Maul for the barrier from Fury. I rarely if ever use ironfur, am I doing something wrong and supposed to use both?
Now I’m not asking this for mythic or anything like that, but more so a general question on the ability usage itself.
If you are just doing solo content and getting away with it, ok.
If you step foot into m+ and think you are not going to be spamming IF, you will be destroyed. Cant see how you would take Ursoks now on lunar bear but if you did, its not great. Was good and then neefed to near uselessness
Ursocs fury in its current state is a trap talent imo.
It’s very hard to pick up without sacrificing a lot of other rather important talents. It also requires too many supplementary talents to have any meaningful impact.
Not keeping at least 2 stacks of ironfur up is a recipe for disaster in any serious content though.
Having 20% more armor, at least, from ironfur means if you take 10 million raw physical damage, you’ll have mitigated 2 million damage. For an equivalent amount of ursocs fury, you’d have needed to pump out 8 million damage with thrash/maul/raze.
The amount of physical damage incoming in non solo content scales far faster than bear damage does.
So every tank has their basic “active mitigation”
Bears: Iron Fur
Warriors: Shield Block
DK: Bone Shield
etc
etc
etc
General rule of thumb is maintain 1 stack of IF at minimum, dump the rest into Maul/Raze.
1 Iron Fur will mitigate more damage (physical) than 1 UF shield from Maul, easily.
So I deleted my previous comment (and then changed it after it didn’t let me put a new comment) after switching some talents around (getting rid of Ursoc’s Fury entirely) and swapping the places of Maul and Ironfur on my spellbar.
But what it said was to the effect of I’m not good at using these types of spells, save for Bone Shield. With warrior I just get too much barrier from ignore pain for me to care much about shield block most of the time.
Anyway, I swapped Ironfur closer and changed talents to get as many of the Ironfur specific ones I could (without sacrificing any of my lunar/arcane talents).
At first I feared that I would end up lower health without the barrier (Just because I’m used to other barriers from other classes and have grown used to constantly having them) but was surprised with how little I actually took once I got a couple stacks.
So I would like to thank you two for pointing this out and getting me to try and go more with Ironfur. That said I don’t exactly know how good I chose with my other talents now, but everything works well so far so shrug
One thing that really helps me use it easily and often is binding it to my scroll wheel on my mouse. I just casually scroll every so often and I can maintain stacks pretty easily. And it also keeps my other hand entirely free to use all my other abilities
Y-You WHAT!?!
Layering up multiple stacks of Ironfur is the main way you mitigate physical damage as a guardian druid! You might be able to get away with using Ursoc’s Fury shields from Maul in low end content, but once you start getting into mythics, that’s going to get you killed very quickly…