I hope by “fire construct” you mean phoenix.
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Personally I loved the class fantasy of Frost having a water-elemental, along with the placeable frost-nova you could place @ range with one of its spells — Them removing water elemental killed frost for me.
The only people I know who speak for having water elemental removed are the elitists & top tier peeps who want to perform in the top bracket & suggest that the elemental was always flawed etc because they couldn’t sit on that little cloud (which we know from damage metres in the past and prior expansions is complete BS).
The better solution would’ve been to increase the water elemental threshold damage to mage the lone-wolf mage, sorta like they did for hunters.
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I hope by “fire construct” you mean phoenix.
Yes! Absolutely! And if not, they should 100% make that a glyph that fire mages can use. 
So many people would love it.
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For sure! It’d be nice to get the felo melorn orbs back too. At least as an option as i know some people didn’t like them, but most fire mages had them on during legion if i’m remembering hall of the guardian correctly.
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Yeah, it depends which source you use, but either the mage binds an elemental themselves or (more often, it seems) they conjure a bunch of water and enchant it. Spec dependent constructs would be cool though, and if they really had to lean into the idea of summoning it during burst phases, maybe more than one would be appropriate to match the Jaina WC3 class fantasy imo, while keeping one available as a non-combat pet for the people who used it for RP and flavor.
I enjoy pets so I disliked the removal of water elemental. However, the conjuring idea that’s being talked about sounds cool, so I hope they reintroduce conjuring to mages in other forms if anything.
Still true.
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NGL I absolutely hated the perma frost pet. It made me not want to play a mage ever. It wasn’t until I started becoming a PVE player instead of PVP where Lonely Winter was the optimal choice to take I really began to own the idea of becoming a frost mage.
So… either way I’m glad it just comes out during IV now and I feel the aesthetics of the entire game benefits
Good to see that this is still going strong! Thanks for showing Blizz how much the community cares (well… has strong feelings for or against, at least) about Bubbles the Water Elemental, and the eternal companionship that permanent pets bring to the game.
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Given the hero talent trees, I’d be shocked if we’re not getting bubbles back, or a system to just summon TONs of them like a demo lock as archmage could sustain 3 out at once. We’ll see. The rework might have been some weird way of taking something away and giving it back as something better. I’d like to see the trees though, I haven’t really been tuning in.
Don’t like bubbles? pick a different hero class!
If they are doing this, I’d love to see the glyphs for welly come back and be usable or customization options in barber. As well as the new thing still be affected by the Thorghast powers I didn’t know existed for welly ( just looked at my DPS with bubbles I thought the devs didn’t care, so never brought it into Torghast).
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Please leave feedback here on the official Q&A: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/submit-your-questions-for-the-wow-development-team-here/
It closes soon but the more questions about the pet, the better.
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Literally hundreds of people on reddit threads disagree with you given the likes they had (remember posts go to 0 if they’re disliked more than liked, comments can go negative, so assuming dislikes from haters like you, there could be many more). The usage was low because it was a no brainer given the numbers difference.
That design is counter to normal design across wow. Normally, an active ability should have higher numbers. Blizzard likes to reward active vs. passive play and for some crazy reason they chose not to for this ability in particular. The design of water elemental was anamalous.
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I never really liked the pet TBH. Though it does help for levelling. I don’t think it’s a big deal but like I said I never was a big fan of it.
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no, im very happy they removed it, also who necroed this thread, you clown?
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Doesn’t matter. They’ve shoe-horned their Quest for Bubbles into most other mage threads at this point lol
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You guys derail as much to attack water elemental lovers as others do to to ask for it back. The thread had fallen at least half way down our front page with most the action happening in hero talent threads when tuts decided to bump it. Stop acting like the victims. Literally seen some of you cherry pick parts of posts to talk about welly instead of actually talk about hero talents. Which is the pressing thing that matters. This community is garbage. This thread should be seeing no action in favor of discussions on the system that’s coming to the class.
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Just report them all for spam. After 5 months there’s no reason this still an issue (and the players who said they’d quit because of it are still sticking around like a moist sock).
It was fine when it was just 1 or 2 threads, but they’ve now created 13-14 of them and are derailing legitimate threads. I know a few players who frequent these forums have been adding these players to ignore, but it seems they’ve now resorted to jumping on alts to bump up their likes and mass-report the posts of people who disagree with them.
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Wow, that’s so terrible. Can you link all of those 13-14 threads? Or are you just making stuff up?
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I was sad when frost mage turned into a pet caster. Like if you wanna play and micro manage pets and be a caster warlock is there for you
Nothing was more annoying than water eles slow attacks breaking poly or it going in LOS so you cant freeze.
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In fairness there’s no non-dark caster fantasy like that. Some people don’t like being an edge lord. Also Warcraft mage lore is unique. There’s nothing wrong with the fact people want to lean into the Jaina/modera side of things. What sucks is that frost keeps oscillating and changing its mind. For a while now the devs have obviously not wanted us to take it because it hasn’t been competitive in YEARS. Druids get better management on their forms + new ones, and now, a whole line of our glyphs were obliterated unceremoniously.
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Splitting Ice is worse, you have no control over the secondary target.
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This can all still happen when IV is active. And when’s the last time you’ve used poly? I haven’t had to poly in ages. I forget where it is on my bar when I actually need it, that’s how little I’ve used it. Was it really that hard to hit ctrl+1 on the non-cced target before casting? I didn’t have any game-breaking instances with freeze being out of ele’s LOS when it was in mine. It’s also only useful in PVP and maybe some M+ trash pulls. Tops.
We’ve also had 2 whole specs dedicated to not having pets and 90% of the time they’re stronger anyway.