Ion Hazzikostas doesn't know his devs have destroyed Havoc DHs

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Being at the Top of the Food Chain inside the direction of a company, does not mean they’ll know what’s happening with his underling minions or Developers working on all aspects of the World of Warcraft.

A clear example is that now Demon Hunters are not wanted in Raids cause of the lowest ever DPS/Damage for a class in a current raid content.

I am hearing complaints across the board of being next to impossible to pug M+ Mythics, and even worst, no Raid leaders want more than 1 Demon Hunter on their raids, due to their very low damage on single Target, but just to get the Chaos Brand buffing spell damage.

This is clearly the developers making changes to all classes, and the ones in charge of Demon Hunters, not knowing how to play a Demon Hunter or even caring to give a fudge how making Havoc the weakest class in Raid content and also bad in PVP.

Too many nerfs to Demon Hunters… now with little survival compared to the past, and limiting our AOE damage and then pushing down our Single Target around 20%-35%+ less than the top Class on the raid meters.

Maybe later this changes with borrowed power… but a lot of people already stopped maining a Havoc DH in Shadowlands because they cannot help in Raids as Much…

I wonder if this class destruction by the developers happened with full awareness of Ion Hazzikostas, or was done behind his back…

I wonder, is the developer’s team aware of the raid numbers? class attendances to Castle Nathria, dps/damage scores in raids happening at the moment??

Is the Havoc Destruction the reason of a spiteful developer hating demon hunters? or is it just some evil fun?

The talent tree for Havoc Demon Hunters have had quite some modifications… some good, some really bad… some others “what the Fudge” are they doing??
To the point that I said in some old post… it feels the devs working on class changes either have no idea what they are doing to some classes, they don’t play them, or they have some RL friend/partner that told them to please make Demon Hunters obsolete…

Yes, we still have good mobility, but no one wants a good mobility class that does poop single target in raids… unless maybe they want to delete this class soon…

I hope this post is read by someone that can actually help our Class and Spec… Lets hope Any developer that can tell us, why the fudge we have been destroyed in single target damage, and why that benefits Raids??? Why Why Why???

My apologies for any typos…

Lets hope we get fixed soon…

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You know there’s literally only 2 class devs right? A wow dev who just quit literally said so in a recent video

And they don’t read the forums

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Or play the game apparently.

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I saw the writing on the wall and bailed after week 1 but now I’m seeing the DH in our raids and its really sad watching him barely above the Paladin Tank. Hes not a bad player, thats just where the balance lies at the moment.

I’d question if his 5% magic buff is even benefitting us or just a sidegrade with the personal DPS loss vs bringing someone who can do 1000+ dps over him.

It is a little unfair since Paladin Tank is so strong (both in mit and DPS) but when the gap is just a few hundred DPS between them and a real DPS spec its pretty sad.

I don’t think it’d take much to fix. Fixing First Blood would help. Flatting the Covenant benefits across all classes would also help (Some classes getting 20%, 30% from Covenants).

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This is so true, still hasn’t been fixed, still no communication, still NOTHING from BLIZZARD! I truly think they gave up on this game, the developers rolled their eyes at us and said “What Ever” and left us with this mess. Only thing we can do is post constantly about our anger, protest them with our money, refuse to resub until they fix our class or classes. This whole expansion has been a big flop, this is not the same Blizzard I fell in love with loing ago, something bad had happened internally with this company and will not fund its betrayal of the game and loyal customers

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It does really limit DH’s options when it comes to progression content. It’s pretty much play Vengeance or reroll right now. Sure, there are Havoc DHs doing CE content, but they are few and far between. It’s definitely a case of “avoid that player because he plays a bad class.”

Sure, you could argue Havoc is fine for casual content and even pugs if you’re geared, but overall most groups are avoiding Havoc DHs because they are in fact quite bad at the game right now.

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Sorry man but title for lowest dps ever of any spec was MoP demonology warlock. I still have nightmares of getting kicked out of normal dungeon runs. But ya, I feel your pain brother.

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I though there was 4 devs working on class/spec so if one quit there is still 3?

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However many there are they don’t play Havoc DH nor do they look at WCL data.

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If your DH is only a couple hundred dps below your pally, he’s not doing his class right. We’re not good, not by any means, but we shoild be holding 3.5k consistent at 200 ilvl.

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yeah you kinda lose most credibility with comments like that. We are by no means in that kind of situation, there are still a lot of specs that do worse than us. We are still on the bottom end of things but not the worst and definitely not the worst ever.

I agree with this as well. I still main my havoc DH, and work harder to be the top geared in my raid mixing PvP and now some M+ to get gear. I know my guild isn’t the best and we are not top teir by any means but i’m still the top or near the top in most fights.

We don’t have a lot of Single Target, makes PvP harder, especially for those of us that didn’t chose Night Fae for the Hunt, but a lot of fights in CN have spots for us to shine with chance to AoE. Like as a DH you should be #1 on Sun King. Other encounters like Huntsman, Darkvein, Stone Legion Generals and Sire Denathrius have lots of cleave opportunities. M+ the same thing, on bosses we don’t do the most damage typically but the trash which is required, and usually the hardest part of M+ we do very well in.

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started to actually switch to my hunter. Doing way more damage in AoE and ST as well. Hunter is not even that gear. Also is a lot easier to play since I no longer have to worry about half of the mechanics and in some dungeons is so much easier to see what the boss is doing and dodge attacks without gimping my damage (espeically last boss in Da other side).

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Completely agree DHs are terrible rn

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What i mainly do on my DH now days, is que for random bgs and just sit back and hunt the lowest geared guy in the bg over and over. I don’t even participate in the actual game…I know its super troll, but loads of fun.

Yesterday I literally 1-shot a really fresh huntard. Kid had 23k hp, and I crit him for 25k. SO good. That is how I’m staying sane rn.

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The saddest part is it would not take much to change us, just a few digits moved around even. playstyle is not that terrible, the legendaries for us arent really that bad either. we are just missing something. Im not gunna lie when eyebeam finishes +metamorph is going, that super high haste makes the class awesomely fun, high APM and engaging. i didn’t play in BFA, but my mom did and she said that she could pretty much stay demon form all the time. jelly. Haste is what makes DH fun IMO but its hard to justify giving up first blood for cycle of hatred, so then we spend a lot of time being slow, we dont need damage we need that APM