Ion about survival

Discussing serpent sting, and what changes should be made due to X and Y is feedback. Discussing mongoose bite and stating have to spam it during windows isn’t fun is feedback.
Saying I don’t like melee SV and wanted ranged returned isn’t feedback.

Again, I don’t know if you have just never worked in the real world, but feedback comes in multiple forms. Telling blizzard that you are not satisfied with the current state of affairs is a form of feedback. It’s not as helpful a specific talent suggestions, but not everyone has the commitment to do that. It still communicates to blizzard that there is a problem. And once again, there is plenty of detailed, constructive feedback about survival both in this thread and in the alpha thread. Just because you choose to ignore it does’t mean it’s nonexistant.

Either way, it’s clear you’re a troll. Since none of our opinions are relevant, guess there’s not point in responding to you anyway.

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According to Blizzard, who has addressed how they want and process feedback, you’re wrong. And since it’s their game, your views on what is or is not feedback are irrelevant. Feel free to quit responding anytime though.

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Well, fortunately for everyone else who isn’t you, reality doesn’t warp around Blizzard.

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Bepples was in this thread.

You didn’t provide proof of anything but Bepples saying they’d do something they don’t do.

Even Bepples doesn’t go in and derail purely pro-MSV threads. The only time you see Bepples in a MSV thread, is when the thread is about the argument over MSV vs RSV. But hey, you’re the special kind of intellectually dishonest person that claims any thread about MSV vs RSV, is clearly just a pre-MSV thread that was derailed the moment someone posted anything about RSV.

Go make a pro-MSV thread right now, provide actual feedback and mention nothing about RSV. And I promise you, no one is going to show up posting about RSV. This is not a thing that happens. Pro-MSV threads that are about pro-MSV and giving feedback don’t just get derailed about RSV. The only time anyone starts going on about RSV in MSV threads, is when people are making false claims about RSV or talking bad about it.

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This was one… 70+ posts ago…

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I meant the post-Darkeforge portion of this thread, sorry. He was fairly calm at the thread’s start for what I’m used to from Bepples, but I doubt that would continue here, hah!

Yeah no. You made this post knowing things that Ion said were going to cause an argument, so don’t pretend like “This was just an innocent MSV thread providing innocent feedback and you RSV people are just here to derail the thread.”

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Its pretty funny seeing the same 3 people on almost every thread baiting arguments with others. Not going to mention their names, lets see if they realize on their own.

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In all fairness this is a RSV vs MSV thread from any other point of view. Mentioning Blizzard’s ideology on why SV is melee is bound to bring in pro-RSV players discussing why they believe Blizzard is wrong.

In Dawn’s defense MSV threads really do stay as MSV threads. My thread about my ideas for MSV stayed completely on track except for a single post from Bepples:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/survival-needs-a-rework-again/557470

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This thread is about why blizzard changed survival. Just because you got a bunch of people talking about the good ole days of survival in here, doesn’t mean that it was made as a RSV thread.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I personally am always up to hear about different opinions and fresh new ideas. The key words there being DIFFERENT and FRESH, not the same thing we have heard since MSV’s genesis, which is revert back to RSV.

Ion said that MSV is here to stay for SL and beyond, so i suggest people stop living in the past and start looking forward.

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The idea behind the post was “it will still focus mainly on melee, but will keep ranged elements”, you are thr one who instantly started blasting how stupid it was etc…

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You know the funny thing about this. Is the Pro-RSV people mostly aren’t saying, remove MSV and put back RSV. They’re saying give RSV back as a 4th spec. Then a not insignificant number of MSV people say “no, you can’t have it, because it’ll make all the other classes cry.”

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Already did this when i made a Fury of the Eagle thread a couple weeks ago. Go check what the first reply was.

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Wrong, I blasted how stupid Ion was for saying MM and RSV were basically the same because they used ranged shots. Literally commenting on something in your post, but hey keep pretending like your thread was derailed.

I fully support the idea of a 4th spec. I just know its not going to happen, because then you would have every other class asking for it. It’s just not realistic, and i think you know that.

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I mean, I support the idea, but my personal preference is a new class that would allow MSV to thrive and RSV people to have their spec back as well, as well as adding some new gameplay.

Agreed completely. I think at this point I just want a Lock and Load talent for MSV and I’ll be happy.

The Hunter community is still split on the issue of the melee spec even two expansions after its introduction. With your new stance of “class over spec” and more ranged abilities returning to the class, what does it mean for Survival in the long term?

This is a discussion thread about this question and Ion’s response on why they changed survival. RSV is very much a part of that discussion, as is discussing the difference between the “good old days” survival and MM since that was the response that Ion gave. This is what the thread was about, and it was honestly pretty civil before being derailed.

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Again, good idea, but not going to happen. The best we can hope for is improvements to the current iteration of survival. Thats why constructive criticism is needed over the eternal back and forth debate about MSV vs RSV.

Okay, and I don’t go into MSV threads that are talking about MSV Feedback. This was not that case. This was a thread about something the game director said. Making comments about things that were posted in the OP, is not derailing the thread.