Recently out of curiosity I googled KSM, man was I shocked! 850 bucks to have someone pilot your character for KSM. 850 bucks?! What kind of people pay for that and secondly what sort of gamer is playing as if it were their living and not out of joy of playing?
This place used to be fun.
It’s actually just based on time of a key, not skill of the specific player. WarcraftLogs parse score is more appropriate than RaiderIO score for hedging against risk when assembling your group.
People that are 2k io are not invested and have nothing to lose, if you are seriously trying to complete 15’s and achieve KSM i’d recommend looking for people that do not have an absurdly high io.
Sometimes they will leave simply after 1 wipe because you know “I’m 2k io I can literally get into any group I want” probably safer to find people with aligned goals that will put in much more effort.
This is key if you are pushing through LFG.
There are no guarantees with any in game system. More often than not you get what you expect from a particular IO, but you can’t be absolutely sure.
mistakes happen at every level. that’s why i recommend bringing a druid along 
we can help you with those crazy pulls and odd noob dungeon deaths hehe 
IO is terrible for someone like me who almost never does M+ unless I’m bored.
That is simply untrue, raid skills =/ M+ skills and vice versa. Experience trumps all, I’ve had people that are 5 or 6 bosses into Mythic raid and have no idea how M+ dungeon mechanics work.
The best indicator when recruiting for M+ keys is how many timed keys they’ve got it.
I think this is one of the biggest things - find players with aligned goals. If you only do m+ when you are bored, you should probably run your own chill key or run with friends - IO shouldn’t affect you at all, if you find a group that has aligned goals.
If you run 20s, look for people who run 20s. If you are pushing 15s, find people who also want to push those keys - don’t look at io scores, look at run history, how many keys they timed, what keys are they missing for KSM, etc. Don’t just look at the io score, it’s way too reductive, and will give you a false sense of security.
Playing Devi’s advocate, sounds like the mage made a mistake (it happens) and bailed because they knew about the avalanche of rage that was about to flow their way. In fact a high io player probably felt it would be even worse for them.
OP be like: Aha! This one unproveable example from my own questionable experience is going to completely defeat the defending argument of IO!
lol you posters man. never gets old
My guildies are very chill, honestly we’d have been way happier to laugh it off and continue the key (it was 4 guildies plus a pug).
Even if the story is true, 2k io players make mistakes. You’d think that they just make less of them.
Oh I’m sure you are. But we all know the horror stories. And a pug has no way of knowing how’d you respond. I’m not defending them. Just giving a possible insight into their logic.
You’re making a fool of yourself for unnecessary snark. Try reading the post before lashing out.
I joined a +5 DoS yday just because I was bored and I died twice, just wasn’t as efficient as I should’ve been. Was probably the same scenario for a 2k io mage in a 15. I always try to target 1k players for a 12-13 & 1.1-1.2 players for a 14-15. They’ll make the effort and more often than not the run means something to them.
A similar effect can be observed with software dev hires.
Intuitively you’d want to the candidates with the most impressive resumes and illustrious backgrounds, but in reality you’re often better off with the second or third-best options, because the shiny resume guy has a good chance of thinking himself a rockstar that the company has been blessed with a chance to hire who’ll ride his credentials and not be all effective at his job. The second and third best candidates don’t have resumes that are as nice and might not have gone to a high end school, but they’re perfectly capable and more likely to earn their keep because their employment depends on their performance.
There are 363 mages on US servers with 2K+ you can’t carry someone in 20’s and higher.
You are supposed to pull the big guy in the first pack of mushrooms at the start of the instance. He was probably used to doing it the right way and didn’t think that he was in a group full of filthy casuals that would badmouth him for doing the right thing. Try again good sir.
Reading comprehension. They planned on pulling the big guy and one mushroom pack. The mage pulled a second mushroom pack as well.
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