I have now killed Invoq over 100 times (while a silver rare) and have not had the toy drop yet. According to wowhead, the drop rate should be around 3% which means I should have had a 95%+ chance of seeing the toy by now. According to the wowhead page for the toy for the Molten Lava Pack (https://www.wowhead.com/item=205796/molten-lava-pack), there are people verging on 1000 kills with no drop.
Given the recent debacle with the manuscripts that were bugged to not drop only for some people, my guess is something similar here. I would theorize that since the toy doesnāt drop if youāve learned it, that the game thinks that some people have already learned the toy even though they havenāt. My guess is that the code probably checks if the toy of a specific id is learned then donāt offer it as a drop but in this case, the wrong id was given. So instead of checking for 205796 (the Molten Lava Pack) it checks for something else that if the person already knows that toy, then the Molten Lava Pack wonāt drop.
Anyhow, please take a look at this because Iām reaching the point of no longer wasting time trying to get it to drop since it may not ever drop.
I second this. Itās one of the only collectibles in Zaralek that hasnāt dropped for me despite many attempts. I know itās hard to prove from our end, but it certainly feels bugged.
Although RNG issues are hard to prove, and normal bad luck is usually the cause, reports like this are valid because we canāt know what the intended drop rate is supposed to be, and there have been situations in the past where things intended to be controlled by RNG were actually bugged to never occur.
Still feeling this is the case. I havenāt killed the rares as often as some other people, Iām only just breaking 100 kills, but the fact itās taken me twice as long as any other drop in the Caverns including Karokta really makes it feel like somethingās off.
Five weeks of 17 alts per week killing that guy takes a long timeā¦ I got the manuscript in the first week and I have only seen the toy drop for three other people, and most of them were first-time kills. Given the world bosses are still loot bugged I can only surmise somethingās wrong with this rare, too.
Dunno if Blizz has seen the thread, but 26 kills on and no luck. The only time I see the word ātoyā is when other frustrated Invoq-killers complain it doesnāt exist or say āonto the next altā
Yeah, there are only really a couple of possibilitiesā¦
One, itās bugged and not dropping for certain players, like the Cliffside Wylderdrake: Black Hair manuscript was bugged from launch until the day they hotfixed Karokta to drop its mount at a higher drop rate
Or two, itās just RNG and the toy is actually the rarest drop in Zaralek Caverns, which would be very strange. I got Karoktaās mount within 40 kills even before its drop rate was hotfixed; Iāve killed Invoq at this point more times than Iāve killed every other rare (quite possibly put together, even) and Iāve only seen the toy drop for about three people, all of whom said it was either their first time or within their first five kills.
I donāt know what could be causing such a bug, but considering it has happened before and that instance was only fixed after Invoq was even made available suggests itās a similar situation to that oneā¦ but it took six months to get that one fixed, and so far most of this toyās hunters are quietly giving up rather than making bug reports, when we really need Blizzard to be aware of it so they can take a look.
Thatās why Iām thinking of updating in this thread each week til I get itā¦ though I donāt know if they really read these forums. Itās not often I get desperate enough that I come here.
Invoq and the water rare with the whirlpools down the bottom of the map - killed them countless times and no toy/pet. Nobody in my guild has it either and theyāve all killed it tonnes.
Just chiming in to say that I have also killed Invoq over 100 times now with no toy dropping. I know RNG is RNG, but given the other known bugs with Zaralek Caverns rares not dropping stuff, I canāt help but be suspicious of Invoq now, too.
As OP suggested, the fact that some players got it to drop doesnāt mean that it is not bugged. The thing about bugs is that sometimes they only affect certain players.
At this point Iām starting to feel the conspiracy brain wonder if itās not getting fixed because one of the only ways to get around it is to make a second account to kill alongside your main then trade it over when it drops.
I know itās just because the QOL team got gutted and disrespected but man. I hope future rares work more like the Time Rift system were you can just buy their collectables after enough kills.
FYI: This now appears to be fixed in 10.1.7. Multiple reports of it now dropping for people. I myself now got it on my 3rd kill after hearing about others getting it. So, GL all!
