Is everything discussed at an external discord server or is the Council just really inactive? After some people have presented their important topics, nothing’s really going on there. I’ve hoped for some energetic, constructive and interesting discussions but in the end it almost looks like some sort of “blog” for a really tiny amount of people who mostly already left after writing their topics.
Blizzard should invite a lot more people to ensure that the discussion is kept alive or even brought to life, because there’s not much atm.
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Blizzard claimed they would invite 100+ people, so there’s still a missing 60 at the very least.
You are right though, many of the selected members have gone pretty silent.
Hopefully those that aren’t active get removed, since ultimately they’re taking the place of someone that would be more invested.
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It’s the holidays. Maybe they are stuck in airports or something. 
Yeah, I hope they keep a good eye on this, even though I don’t have a lot of trust anymore. I’ve thought about this a couple of times that there might be some players who’ve got an invite but didn’t notice it or are not even interested to be active in the forums at all. I know of ONE person who got an invite but hasn’t used it so far.
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Because they don’t discuss anything what they don’t care for. And this is the problem. Every member should actually put some input into the matter but most topics are dead.
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There are 39-ish people out of the 100+ they hope to invite. There are currently no guidelines or structure and most of Blizz is on vacation until after the new year.
I assume or hope that when they finish filling it they might start posting specific topics they want feedback on, as well as replying to some more of the topics Council members have out there. Even if that feedback is to say “that is not something we see putting in game in the next expansion or so”. Better than feeling ignored - which is what they do to most feedback. I know they HEAR it, but the community does not feel that way when nothing at all is ever said.
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The app form is closed. All the community council spots full? Now that I see almost no Classic WoW discussion over on the CC forum, I want to put my app in.
No, the CC is not full. They got over 10,000 apps for it though and are still going through them. So far only about 40 spots have been filled. They will finish going through what they have, make selections, and open the Apps up again if they want more of them. I fully expect if participation drops they will revisit it. Just like Alphas and Betas. When they need more participants, they do another wave of invites. Except these need some amount of vetting first (I hope!).
The goal is to have around 100 eventually. Classic WoW is actually the topic that has gotten the most Blue interaction so I am surprised you feel that there has not been much chat about it.
They go any slower and your year will be up.
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They did the first invites and opened the forum for posting on Dec 8th. Today is January 27th. I know time passes strangely online, but I think it is safe to say we are not approaching a year yet.
I do hope for a lot more interaction and some structure. Maybe when they add the rest of the council folks?
Either way, the success of this is on Blizzard. If they don’t do invites, don’t interact, and don’t show the transparency they were aiming for then that won’t be on the CC folks.
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I also feel like I shouldn’t have to put /s or /joke on every post.
Text is a very tough medium to convey tone through. It is easier if you know the person you are talking to, but we don’t so much know each other on the forums.
I am in favor of using tone indicators. I get the point though, you feel progress is slow and I don’t think anyone can disagree with that.
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Actually I don’t really care. The CC is mostly pointless unless the entire goal is to completely disregard all feedback in any other form. Pretty much everything talked about has already been said, many times.
40 people or 100 people, it’s all the same.
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Do new topics have to be approved by some Blizzard mod before the public can see them?
I’m just so shocked the Council members themselves aren’t ALL creating new threads, at least once daily, each.
There’s so many focused discussions I’d love to have with the blues that I can’t wrap my head around making the council and NOT generating pages of new threads by MYSELF, much less with 30/40 other concerned players.
We need more blue in our life.
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No. We can post what we want and they go live the same way any post here does. The CMs CAN create threads that are hidden until a pre-determined point, but that is usually for announcements and news posts that are planned then just made public when it is time.
That feels VERY spammy.
I think a lot of people would. Maybe if they start responding to more threads then people might start making more. For now we have 40 out of the 100 people they want, and mostly only Classic is getting much attention. That, and they DID change the flying requirements for next patch so that is good.
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1 new thread from each council member a day would be SPAM? It might be a lot to get through, but compared to GD it doesn’t seem like a lot, especially if each and every one of those threads was constructively made and not just WE HATE SYLVANAS (no we Don’t!) RAWR.
Even if each council member were making one new thread a week the forum would look a lot different. I think there’s a double-edged “you get out of it what you put into it” factor going on over there, right now. Council members are waiting for Blizz responses to the threads that already exist so they’re not making more (at least I hope that’s why) and Blizz isnt getting near as much out of it as they could if they responded more BUT-
If the council were making a whole bunch of threads, maybe they’d stumble on topics the blues felt they could more readily respond to in a timely fashion.
And perhaps threads need to be even more narrow in focus? I remember when q&a with cdevs was a thing, we were always told to limit each post in the thread to one question and not to ask multi part questions. The “one rpers wish list” thread is great for me to seen as an RPer, for example- but maybe some of those items could actually get a response if they were their own shorter thread instead of just HERE’S A MASSIVE LIST TO RESPOND TO. It just feels like council members writing multi part, multi subject essays leaves the devs needing to write essays back, which they may not be so able to freely do. (Though they could just pop into the thread and say so if that’s an issue)
They needed the council to remove the pressure from themselves.
Probably, a bit much honestly. But there’s also quite a few Council members who only posted in the introduction thread and never again, and many that have not posted in a month or more which would mean not at all this year so far. Some that shown ‘last seen’ over a month ago meaning they don’t even really read these forums either. I wonder how many were chosen only to never make a post on the forum section at all, and we never saw a ‘new wave’ that was sorta promised in January.
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Oh, I totally agree. I definitely think if the council flops it’s Blizzard’s fault/responsibility for not taking the initiative to be the more active ones.
Each side NEEDS to make more effort if this is going to do anything here, IMO, but it’s not any customer’s responsibility to do so. Blizz needs to step up.
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