Introduce Naxx+

Well, this isn’t even normal wrath. We got valor badges in 10 man, 25 man loot going into 10 mans later… Wintergrasp is instanced… That ship sailed apparently with Wrath Classic.

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Disagree all you want non the less it is fact we have moved of blizzards stated plan and normal path for classic that was as accurate as possible. The 30 percent buff is then making the first significant departure from that for raids and as such has made raiding into wrath plus without question.

My bad. However, if a 17 year old raid is hard… it’s a player issue

This. Yet you’re complaining about an invisible 30% buff lol.

Valor in 10 man dint significantly change raid diff. At most it takes a week of getting a given item which hardly changes the end difficulty only speeds up progression a small amount.

It is nothing like a 30 percent buff. That is a significant change.

Wg as said came after the 30 percent as such ship was sailed pre that do read. 30 percent is not invisible and it quite noticeable. It changes kill times and as such parses and diff significantly. Anyone that thinks it’s invisible is a fool. As there would be no point to it if it was invisible and changed nothing.

Lmao go off sis. I’m really over this conversation. Take care of yourself.

Huh??? I haven’t said anything about 30% anything… Are you OK?

I was talking to the cow, I quoted you to show all the changes in wrath that I feel are more severe than the flat 30%.

Sounds like minor QoL changes that don’t affect the actual content itself to me

They should buff every raid significantly to Modern times. Force people to actually form good groups and make it non puggable. The struggle to clear content is a good thing - doesn’t have to be mythic level but make it harder than just signing up and w keying.

My post was in response to the OP. Not you.

Apologies if the forums made you think it was towards you.

Naxx in wrath was always easy, even in OG wrath. Did people wipe? yes but it would be rare.

PLUS, how many raid tiers do we have in wrath for the first raids? Four. We have four raids to get gear from, plus the heroic variants for the raids on top of badge gear, crafting gear, and heroic dungeon gear. As I see it, there’s too much gear for the players to obtain.

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