Instead of killing CB open transfers both ways between CB and CS

Instead of killing CB open transfers both ways between CB and CS.
This would allow the people that prefer to play on a normal sized server the choice to play on Chaos Bolt or if they wanted a megaserver they could play on Crusader Strike.

There are two different approaches to how people enjoy servers.
Some players like the “Community” feel of a lower population server.
Some players like the instant groups you find on the mega servers.

Neither of these playstyles are wrong.

Chaos Bolt has a dedicated community.
Lots of us aren’t leaving the server.
The ones that are leaving never wanted to be here in the first place.

I’m unsubbing to protest the the decision to kill my perfectly fine server and I encourage anyone who doesn’t want to transfer to do the same if they try to force the issue.

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Enlighten me on how this helps your cause?

Common sense dictates if people unsub and don’t login to the server, then it will expedite the closure process.

When (notice how I didn’t say “if”) you come back, you might find your characters forced onto Crusader Strike (or another server not of your choosing).

You do you though. :man_shrugging:t2:

Please blizzard do something other than kill our little server

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The executive who made this decision only understands money.
If enough people unsub instead of transferring they might rethink making decisions like this in the future.

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I disagree.

There isn’t a large enough population (or players who would actually follow through on your call to unsub) on Chaos Bolt to even make a dent in their monetary numbers.

Chaos Bolt was an afterthought created because Crusader Strike filled up so quickly. I know, because I was one of the first people on Chaos Bolt.

Yes, the community is awesome there. Yes, I truly enjoyed all of ph1 there.

Blizz is just winding it down to consolidate it back to the original planned RP-PVP server.

Unsubbing and calling for others to do the same will only serve to expedite the process.

Money is always the common denominator. If CB is going to be closed no matter what any of us say or do to protest it, then the last resort is to do so with our wallets.

It worked for BfA and it worked for Shadowlands. One can even make the argument that Classic Era/SoD is what was and is increasing MAU’s for WoW.

And if CB is that paltry of a community then nothing will come of it. But if Blizzard cutting off a good portion of the community for reasons unknown to that community causes enough of a dent in subscriptions, then they’ll respond accordingly as they always do when it comes to money.

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If 100 of us unsub that’s $1500.
That’s some executive’s new golf club.

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Sure.

But show me where you’re paying to access to just SoD? It’s a bonus version of the game which we get to play in addition to all the other versions of the game.

The only thing you pay extra for are retail expansions (and cash shop stuff … but sod has extremely limited things there).

You’re free to continue with your crusade in trying to get them to change their mind. I’ll be sitting on the sidelines shaking my head.

A population of 8k’ish players (which likely half or more don’t even see the forums) is a fraction of the whole SoD player base.

You all do you though in spamming the forums. Maybe it’ll work, but I somehow doubt it.

Actively campaigning against this post isn’t “sitting on the sidelines”

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Ohhhh. So you’re one of those types.

“If you disagree with me you’re against me.”

I think I’ll save my brain cells and walk away while I wait for my eyes to stop rolling.

I mean, that’s what disagree means dog.

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Did you miss the part where I said I’m one of the first players on Chaos Bolt?

Did you also miss the part where I said I disagree with your nonsense of unsubbing not helping your cause?

Can you show me anywhere where I said I’m for or against the server being shutdown? (If you try to highlight my statement of chaos bolt being an afterthought, then try again because that’s not an opinion but a fact).

I’m debating with you on the logic of (claiming) you’re unsubbing and calling for others to do the same. It makes absolutely no sense and only expedites the process of a server closure.

Again though … I’m gonna save my brain cells. Carry on with your nonsense. :wave:

Anyone who understands data can see the increases in trends related to various version releases of the game. Specifically Classic WoW. I speak for myself when I say I don’t play retail or that garbage Plunderstorm.

That being said, if YOU dissociate increased MAU’s from Classic (2019), Era, and SoD from those trends, well I just hope you didn’t go to business school for a degree.

I want you to really think about what I am going to tell you and perhaps maybe it’ll click.

If people listen to someone like you and DON’T express their issues, then nothing changes. You are in a forum for an iteration of a game that Blizzard refused to do until people were moving away from WoW to play on private servers for that experience.

So don’t sit here and gaslight people saying what we do won’t work. Chaos Bolt was made literally because people spoke up and protested. I weep for people who simply wedge themselves into defeatism and have no energy to oppose anything.

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While it certainly would have taken some of the sting out of things, this would still have inevitably killed Chaos Bolt off. And at the same time, it would have angered the small minority of people who moved from Crusader Strike to Chaos Bolt when Blizzard inevitability announced the closure of Chaos Bolt come Phase 4.

Because that’s what’s going to happen here. They’re soft-closing CB for Phase 3 in order to siphon off most of the population ‘willingly’ so that they can finish hard-closing CB in two-three months when Phase 4 rolls around.

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Soooo … what I’m reading here is, “don’t have an opinion unless you agree with mine.” Got it.

BS.

It was made because the population of Crusader Strike literally erupted. They had to lock it because so many people were trying to login on it. Whether it was due to streamers or whatever … the fact is it blew up.

Chaos Bolt was made for those who couldn’t get into CS. It had nothing to do with “protests”. If anyone is gaslighting anyone, it’s you.

Self made victim here.

Gorch on that copium world tour.

This is actually not true. Chaos Bolt was made because by the developer’s own words, over 100,000 unique accounts tried to join Crusader Strike on Day One of SoD, forcing them to Lock CS and spin up CB. edit: They did not make Chaos Bolt because people were crying over streamers designating Crusader Strike as the streamer server. That’s simply revisionist history.

Their mistake was unlocking CS only three days later to be honest, because that meant Chaos Bolt never had a chance to grow to the numbers it would need to survive the entirety of SoD.

It’s clear you can’t understand the difference of someone stating an opinion versus someone stating tangible facts.

Everyone protested going to Crusader Strike for the simple fact it was going to have all sorts of issues, including stability. So yes, people who refused to go to CS did so because of issues we saw coming and still exist.

Aggrend said it wasn’t happening and reversed course. You can sit here and split hairs, but his inability to see the issues we were protesting against and then deciding to make a server doesn’t invalidate people opposing going to Crusader Strike.

You can’t even tell the difference between opinion in data. Poor schooling made you a victim.

A major point of people not wanting to join CS was due to this. Whether Aggrend in his limited ability to foresee this at that time and us demanding a different server to avoid that issue does not invalidate why people opposed going to CS or why CB was made.

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I assume you never played classic. If you did you would of known this would happen. There was even post before they made that server saying this would happen. I just thought it was funny seen all the post about people saying come join CB, when they just trying to save a dying server that wasn’t going to be saved. With a quick Google search you could see all these same post in forums

What I’m saying is that it didn’t matter that people didn’t want to join CS. Chaos Bolt wasn’t spun up because of you guys, it was spun up in spite of you guys. Otherwise Crusader Strike wouldn’t have been locked.

They didn’t make Chaos Bolt because you guys protested and boycotted Crusader Strike, they made Chaos Bolt because everyone else DIDN’T. Those of you who didn’t want to roll on Crusader Strike merely benefitted from the fact that everyone else DID want to roll on Crusader Strike, leading to it getting too big, too fast.

Chaos Bolt was made to handle the overflow from Crusader Strike. It was not made to cater to your desire for a non-streamer server.

Because Blizzard stated that they would not allow a ‘dead server’ to persist in SoD, and because Blizzard made the poor decision to unlock Crusader Strike only three days after SoD released, Chaos Bolt’s decline was inevitable. SoD’s decline as a whole is inevitable. The difference is, every other server can afford to lose 30-50% of its population each Phase. Chaos Bolt couldn’t afford to do that.

Now don’t get me wrong, I still think Blizzard acted prematurely and bungled the approach to this forced merge rather horrifically. They should have opened transfers up from Chaos Bolt to EVERY other server in SoD, not just CS and not just LL.

I also think it was probably too early for them to do this to Chaos Bolt, but clearly they have access to data that you and I do not, and clearly they saw a problem that they decided was better nipped in the bud now, rather than later.

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