Does taking DP lead to a big loss in dmg? And is it better in pvp
Inq is sustain damage, DP is random and crusade is high burst aslong as you have uptime.
Pick what suits your playstyle.
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I use DP and if i don’t die to stupid stuff usually my parses are fine.
if this is for PVP I use it for that too because it’s easy to get in a CC chain during crusade then all your damage is gone. also it synergizes well with word of glory you can use a DP proc for WoG and it might proc itself again.
i could see inquisition being good in arenas but I’ve never tried it and if you do get a weak aura for it.
I’ve only played my Ret Paladin from Cata to WoD, went WW in Legion and came back to Ret now, and I will say the only time I ever enjoyed DP was when it was baseline in Cata. I guess I was just one of those who never got those fair amount like 3x/4x+ DP procs during any other time using it.
Inq is nice, I just don’t like the maintenance of it.
I see that golden emblem and my fingers are trained to hit TV
DP is the way to go for me.
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I really like Inquisition myself.
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I just enjoy Divine Plea more than the other two talent playstyles.
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Thank you for the feedback! I have been only using DP as it feels best
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Assuming high uptime during crusade it’s better than Inquisition once you get 1 or more Light’s Decree azerite traits. Stack more and your burst gets insane, specially aoe burst. It usually accounts for like 20ish% of my dps in the opulence fight were the adds spawned in phase 2 just melt with wings on.
Divine Purpose is really fine too, it’s random but can provide sustained damage on par with Inq.
As for pvp: bg’s and stuff I always run crusade, since aoeing near flags with it is bonkers. However from a competitive standpoint I think DP or Inq are better, since Crusade takes 3 Veredicts to fully charge and in arena you want to seize brief opportunities for burst.
I went from Hunter to my Paladin (Ret of course) in Cata, and that was the only time I ever liked Divine Purpose.
I just don’t feel as if I get a satisfactory, yet fair amount of procs since they removed it from being baseline. I don’t mind Inquisition, I would love it even better if I didn’t have to use said amount of Holy Power to use it, and if it needs a trade off for it then reduce the time on it when you use it.
It seems most Rets on here are gonna say Inquisition, with few stating that Crusade/DP does have it’s uses in certain scenarios.
It would be nice if we could get all other talents that sit collecting dust as a way to change up your spec for various useful results. I remember when Execution Sentence was good in PvP, but and I don’t think I’ve seen any Rets using Zeal, assuming that Righteous Verdict is just too good not to use. Also is there any real benefit to using Divine Judgment/Consecration over Wake Of Ashes? Because Ashes can hit like a monster on multiple targets.
Well, on long lived adds Consecration technically pulls ahead of Wake of Ashes. Problem is that in M+ adds need to be tipically kited for various reasons and as such Cons becomes unreliable. Also Cons lost 99% of it’s appeal when they didn’t update the animation :’(
Also regarding zeal, it’s the talent to go for aoe but mainly because Righteous Veredict does nothing for aoe lol. However RV is nice to have for bosses so…
It’s that obvious I mainly only PvP in this game!
I just can’t get into M+ after the very last one I did in Legion, and I haven’t had the desire to put any real effort into raiding.
I guess PvP will usually be set to having that go to talent with minimal use for any other.
Well, that’s a bummer, M+ is really enjoyable when you have people to run it with cuz otherwise pugging can be a freaking nightmare so I can understand your point.
Regarding pvp, yeah, even tho I don’t do much of it but it’s easy to see that there’s no flexibility whatsover talent wise.
I have to admit I actually miss templates with the way current BFA is.
Now I’m all for “Gear shouldn’t matter” in PvP, but at the same time character progression is one of the foundations in this game… it’s why I always thought as bad as WoD was, one of the things they did right was how they handled PvP gear, and the catch up with it.
During that time the gear wouldn’t be good for PvE raiding, and you had to actually PvP to get it. Not just zone into a quest like Darkshore and kill a bunch of NPC’s to get a 400 piece.
I remember seeing less and less fresh 100’s coming into PvP looking for a carry. Just spend about an hour or so in Ashran and you would usually be in combatant gear, which would be the way to attune yourself for BGs. And while Ashran sucked, it’s still worth the time to get some easy honor gear and then move on.
One thing that disappoints me with the current PvP system is how the azerite traits are better from PvE gear than PvP.
Now everyone is running through M+ just so they can maximize their characters in PvP. I just want it all to be separate. Except for in World PvP for obvious reasons.