Just correcting your inaccurate statement.
BOP
SAC
And every ability during melee wings you know the 1 min cooldown? Just wondering why you would claim to be the “casting healer” and every other healer is apperently just instant casting to Victory
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What are your thoughts on healers? I have my monk - which feels good. I was thinking of an alt (with dps off spec) SO i am very interested in viability not OP. Have you seen anything that is not going to be easily hotfixed and not viable? anything coming out on top?
Seriously stop. Hpal has had more “oh shi*” cooldowns than any other healer In the game.
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I’m a lifetime capped rival xp I wouldn’t know tbh
Monk and Hpal seem to be t1 imo though
I guess this comment here proves you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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You mean like saying you are the only healer class casting pre 8.1?
Judgement
Crusader Strike
Holy Shock are all instant BTW
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I didn’t say that we were the only healer casting, what i said was that we relied on casting our heals more than others which you may have mis-interpreted. Monks are an exception though, given their high output.
As an Hpal, pre 8.1 if you didn’t have melee wings up it was near impossible trying to top someone off outside of a Cooldown.
Please, crusader strike and judgement are NOT heals. That would be as dumb as me saying that purge the wicked is a heal, actually no that would be worse because you actually have consistent healing coming from that where as holy paladins had a healing come from crusader strike and judgement for 16% of the game.
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Are you blind or did you miss the part where i said 16%? I literally just said that.
I’m not seeing where your hostility is even coming from, considering most of what you’ve said is wrong.
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What part was wrong? I can quote you talking about other casters not having to cast to heal. I simply pointed out that you as a Holy Paly DON’T really cast to heal more than anyone and actually have more brain dead instant cast saves/heals than any class aside from MW monk (heals not saves) and RDruid of which both classes have little saves when compared to HPal. So I think you might just be a little to dim to follow this conversation.
After reading all of this
it seems Holy Paladins are happy and everyone else is not.
The game just feels so slow and boring at the moment. Been testing healing out with hpal rdruid and mw and they are all just so boring. If I had to rank I’d say I do the best with MW >hpal>rdruid granted id say I’m very rusty with rdruid and didn’t put in a lot of games. Nourish feels so damn awful tho due to cast time…
For reference I’m 2.1 k BFA xp on hpal and rdruid. Also, played all games on the healers within the 1700-1800 mmr…
Mistweaver.
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I don’t feel like that is remotely true since all of your big heals are instant cast during Soothing Mist and you are simmilar to Hpal with WOTC plus your throughput is enough to 5%-100% your DPS in no more than 4 casts (instant casts). Meanwhile it takes Disc schism, solace,3 smite penance combo x2 to get 30-45% back on their dps. This all stems from idiots thinking Disc just spans PWS.
didn’t know soothing mist was also an instant buff on the target with no channel time
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in order to get the “big heal” I need to channel standing still (1 GCD) then double mist (1.5 sec GCD combined)
So that is 2.5 seconds, standing still, casting a heal.
What instants are you talking about?
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From watching streams it seems like all the healers are in a decent spot, tbh. Each spec fills a unique niche for different comps and so they’re all playable/viable.
What is the cast time on enveloping mist or any other heal when channeling SM? Are you actually implying MW don’t have the highest throughput in the game? If I could instant cast all my damage while channeling penance I would… So what is your point?
I mean I have to channel penance THEN continue to cast everything else… boy must suck to be able to stack heals instantly while channeling a heal?
Also you act like the healing occurs after the 2.5 sec… you mean 2.5 sec to 5%-100% someone you are healing from the very second you cast SM.
The amount of healing was not the initial question - it was about instants. I was just trying to say that we are not instants (meaning they cannot be interrupted). Our heals are channeled - so there is some counter play to it.
I will ask again - what instants do monks have? renewing mist?
We can discuss output in another thread if you like.
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Read your tooltips and answer your own question. You are not casting any of those skills outside of SM. They are instant cast. You press Soothing Mist then spam instant casts. The original post you made you were claiming MW casted more than Disc. Pressing one button and instant spamming heals isn’t the same as casting spell after spell with actual cast times for the entire match from start to finish.
i think we will just have to disagree on that. No big deal. Regardless, I think all healers are viable right now - but they need specific comps to really excel.
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