That’s not contrarian, it’s how the game was designed. You people are obsessed with trying to sculpt reality around your beliefs.
Lol this is stupid. In anyway you look at it. Forcing people to stay in turtle games is not fun. And all this will do is cause those people from instead of leaving to afking not participating in the fight maybe killing some harpies or have even more people sitting near the pvp but not interacting so they don’t get booted. so then you are a man down that will never be replace.
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No, paraphrasing but you basically said ‘trust my opinion’. Could easily throw that back at you as you have this inane desire to have every particular thing the way you want it, and denounce any change with little (or in this case, 0) reasoning other than that’s how you perceived it to be.
You are literally obsessed with the idea that the way you perceive things is how it should be, which is why talking to you devolves into a pointless argument with you being contrary to whatever point is made without thinking it through.
System works but could be better, afking is a huge problem in BGs. But yeah according to you its apparently perfect
You literally have made threads whining about other players behaviours and crying on the forum. Wannnhhhh, Wannnhhhh
NO U
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You are incredibly simple minded. I want things to be unchanged by people like you, who create problems where there aren’t any.
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Yup.
Terrible idea.
lots of people do actually 
not everyone is obsessed with muh honor per hour
Then they can do so while we find a new game.
Problem solved.
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I’m gonna say this the easiest way I know how… The majority of people who are PVPing are doing so for the gear that is involved.
It’s double stupid if you waste your time while wasting your time, right? There’s no benefit to anyone pushing a game beyond 20 minutes, unless you are getting lucky, PVPing in a small group. Which, as we know, AV is not known for (Turtling, hello?).
Please stop advocating to punish players who don’t want to play an hour long match to achieve their ranking goals. The 15 minutes deserter is more than long enough.
If you don’t want people /AFKing out, then learn how the game works and how to avoid turtles. If you want actual PVP go try WSG or AB when it launches.
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It’s fine. Want honor, help your team win. Turtles are fine. Up to you and your team to break it.
Only issue I have with joining late is you get stuck in a really bad position often on the wrong side of a choke. If anything changed it should give you a 20 second prep buff, and a choice of any flag you currently have flipped or control to portal to. Like a when you have the prep buff you can talk to a cave guard, and they will have a list of flags you can portal to. But I’m sure there would be bugs and it wouldn’t actually work as intended, so scratch that.
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Of course not, but you know what’s even less fun? Getting dropped into a turtle because some one afk’d out. If you afk out you don’t deserves any of the bonus honor and the the folks who saw it through should get it.
or you just have zero clue what you’re talking about because you’re experiencing this game as horde. You only chance at winning AV is a turtle and that’s a fact. If you were playing Alliance getting thrown in games where every bonus objective is done, even if you stick it out you’re wasting 30+ minutes of your life just come out with maybe a thousand honor if you just go HK farming and win. Maybe try using some of that brain power you claim to have more of than everyone else to try to look at things from both sides. So by your logic Alliance is just about as well off to not even bother queuing and instead go farm your 50’s trying to level.
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If you que as a group(even if the other person doesn’t join) you will never join an in progress match
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Incorrect.
Just because oldies of the past bumbled around and did nothing all day other than mindlessly fight in mid for 24 hours doesn’t mean all AVs for the rest of time have to be long.
If anything AV is a faster game mode than the others. Assuming both teams are playing to win as fast as possible, they’ll end up needing to fight in both WSG and AB, to either cap flags or cap nodes. AV is both teams running past each other to kill their pve raid boss.
Long AVs only existed because players were bad and dog. No one should be expecting to play a single AV over an hour.
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it wasn’t designed to be played that way tho
Careful, you’re gonna annoy the “classic 10 hour AVs were the best!” purists.
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Got a source?
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Says who exactly?
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how about we make a new AV queue type, now you can queue for “fresh game only” then you can just go queue normal AV and hope for your turtle fun while the rest of us play get honor and move on.
i have 8 games since reset and still at zero HKs lol. turtles almost only happen closer to the end of the week when ppl are bored and done the honor grind.