the same crap always with each expansion, each season, they don’t allow a balanced pvp at the level of equipment, only for supposed “hardcores”, if you don’t have other players to carry you or don’t have 16 hours a day to play choose another game … or suffer trying to earn conquest points being destroyed in random bgs or arenas for being undergeared! this is what pvp devs think its good about the pvp they dont play! and they don’t understand why so many pvp players have left the game in recent years.
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Actually modern conquest gain is very reasonable for casual players as it’s frontloaded in the first win of the day bonus and weekly quests.
Obviously this isn’t ideal if you aren’t playing for the first three months but it’s great for anybody playing casually.
Actually everybody was effectively hard reset at season launch to 437 (honor gear) and honor equipment only required about 11k points.
25 conquest per win when you need 13000 for a full set. Yeah, I’ll pass thanks.
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It’d be nice if you can still get the conquest regardless of the random bonus. I don’t want to do the random, I want to do Alterac Valley or Ashran as EBG and Warsong Gulch or AB or Kotmogu as regular BG only. No more Wintergrasp, I can’t handle it.
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It would be nice to get conquest of you loss arenas or solo shuffle but I don’t want to encourage players going afk.
But also, separate the pvp and PvE vaults.
Give more conquest so you actually progress your gear too.
the goal seems to be, a reverse logic of current pvp devs: make pvp gear hard to acquire, make it not also usable for playing pve, make pve gear easier to acquire by 1000 ways and allow its use in pvp also! then waste your time 2x… first getting pvp gear that later you notice that it sucks, then get the pve gear. great model!
I made a post like this one some time back. I agree that conquest gains need to be boostec 100%.
Yes, its a fair conquest for that “first game of the day” byt after that the gain is reduced so much that the only way to make a meaningful gain is through rated 2s 3s or rated bgs. Packed tight full of e-sport wanna be’s and people who jump at you for not being the best in game. Let causual players choose which battlegrounds they play on instead of a random map and let the “first round bonus conquest points” be the new gain for every win 45 or 50 conquest or whatever it is. Even that is still relativley low compared to how far a player has to go to earn a full set of conquest gear.
Would actually love this, I focus on PvE but want to PvP also. But without the four set I’m so far behind, kinda sucks : /. Would just need to make sure the PvP tier doesn’t affect PvE e.g. you could get two tier pieces in one week.
Is there a way to get PvP tier outside of vault?
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You can use the Catalyst or whatever to change conquest gear into tier
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Thanks, yeah I’ve used all mine on PvE so far but same problem. But once I’m all good for PvE I can start my timegate for PvP tier…fun times.
I don’t even want to do PvP until I have the max gear current PvP players as well.
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Im a pvp player but i look at pve trinkets and most of them are MUCH better than what a conquest trinket can put out if they were the same Ilvl.
PvE players get new and cool and interesting trinkets every new patch while pvp trinkets have been the same 4 or 5 for a decade.
Ideally i want that sweet sweet PvE trinket but scaled upto ilvl450pvp to match the rest of my gear. The only way is to run like +20s for the trinket and get the upgrade currency but my ilvl 450 pvp gear only scales to 411 pve at the moment, far below whats needed for a +20. Wish there was a easy way to get some of those sweet sweet pve trinkets scaled to 450. sigh these are the times we live in I guess…
more than half year ahead, conquest earnings are still bad through pvp quests and activities outside the elitist and supposed competitive rated modes… while pve players can have best gear even outside raid and m+
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