In theory, what would be the best WW talent build without Xuen

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I know you pretty much need to have Xuen as a talent choice, a lot of your damage comes from him, the haste proc, and so on, but If someone that totally isn’t me would do a talent build that didn’t include Xuen at all, what would be the best or the most optimal choices inside that restriction? And what would be the damage loss or utility loss compared to the usual talent build?

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Some of the problem with this premise is that you’re missing out on some pretty powerful talents if you aim to take none of the Xuen effected talents; Xuen’s Bond, Fury of Xuen, and Empowered Tiger Lightning.

If you’re willing to take the then-dead talent for Empowered Tiger Lightning, then you’d probably end up with something like this;

If you insisted on going full No-Xuen or anything that involves him, then your best bet would maybe be:

In terms of damage loss, this is a quick sim for my character using the current standard Raid ST talents vs the two above:

Its about 9% loss if you’re OK with taking Empowered Tiger Lightning, and 20% loss if you’re not.

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Thanks for the detailed answer Babylonius, I appreciate it a lot!

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Don’t be shy, step into the off meta with confidence.

I welcome you!

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This is a really interesting question actually … why is there a talent that enhances xuen possible without actually talking xuen ? :tiger:

Cause in all honesty a xuen-less build sounds kind of fun …

We’re already the absolute bottom of the tier list (according to dratnos and tettles anyway …) so why not! lol

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Another question, If i wanted to NOT pick the white tiger statue capstone on the general monk tree, what else could i pick there instead?

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I personally never pick that because … I hate it

I play my shaman when I want a totem. Please give us something better for our class tree blizzard!

I just grab bounce back for extra survivibility

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On that same note … I honestly think that Windwalking would make a much better capstone than the tiger statue and that they should just buff resonant fists to compensate for the loss of dps …

Oh and also for goodness sakes make it a 1 point talent :crazy_face:

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Detox, Strength of Spirit, avoidance aura.

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This is a very common thing for people to not pick. I never talented into it during progression.

What you pick with that extra talent point depends on the rest of your setup and what else you need.