In Midnight do a PvP without Gear Gap

[Worldpvp-nerzhul (Worldpvp)]

@Sacarthas-wyrmrest-accord

So I don’t have a massive advantage against the 9m HP player who gets 2 globaled and they couldn’t possibly be discouraged from PvP’ing again or showing anymore interest or hope of getting better at the game?

Ur acting like people are paying irl money for this gear LOL

[Sacarthas-wyrmrest-accord]

If you can’t understand ordinary human beings and emotions, with the case of someone just choosing to walk out on a negative player experience of being 2 shot in a competitive game, I can’t help you.

[Âmdex-moon-guard]

It has been like this since day 1, nonissue.

[Åstra-nemesis]

The “GAP” in current gearing is exactly this: it’s easy to acquire gear, but those who spend more gold at the auction house or work order have a greater number of sockets and crafted gear with better stats before others without even playing PvP, and have a considerable advantage over those who simply do conquest caps and get gear and sockets from NPCs…
Not to mention that by going to raids you can get the 4 bonus sets before other PvPers who don’t go.
In WoD it was even better because everyone used the exact same PvP gear from the same source, with the same number of sockets and a specific PvP bonus set, all purchased through the PvP vendor only.

[Duhammad-grobbulus]

@Åstra-nemesis

but those who spend more gold at the auction house or work order have a greater number of sockets and crafted gear with better stats before others without even playing PvP

Miniscule difference.

@Åstra-nemesis

and have a considerable advantage over those who simply do conquest caps and get gear and sockets from NPCs

Not considerable.

[Åstra-nemesis]

Realy? go to see the ranked ladders and see armory of any player you wish, full sockets, i doubt they share ypur opiniion.

If it didn’t make a difference I think 100% of them wouldn’t have the 9 sockets and all the crafted parts they can have.

[Duhammad-grobbulus]

@Åstra-nemesis

If it didn’t make a difference I think 100% of them wouldn’t have the 9 sockets and all the crafted parts they can have.

Yes, it makes a miniscule difference all things considered. You’re not really going to be losing because someone has more sockets than you.

[Soulpriest-gurubashi]

Getting curb stomped has nothing to do with gear. It has everything to do with blizz allowing Que synchers to ruin the beginner PvP zones like epic bgs.
If you are new to PvP you don’t want to Que up for rated bgs. You start with beginner PvP zones like epics. Which are sadly ruined by Que synchers. Not a gear issue!
I dont decide to all of a sudden be a raider and Que up for mythic raiding. I start at lfr and bring my skill and gear on par with the content level.
You are making it more than it is pal.

[Tinysha-tichondrius]

They have all sockets cause they’re sweaty r1 players that will take the 1% stat increase over the other team to eke out wins. Sockets are basically irrelevant outside of that (assuming you have your 1 socket for epic gem + 1 socket if you have elemental lens)

[Brigidd-eldrethalas]

@Sacarthas-wyrmrest-accord

That the average person curious on PvP isn’t going to stick around being curb stomped in BG’s and rated play by massive gear disparities of being in questing greens against PvP scaling, or honor vs rated.

Gear is not the problem in pvp, exploiting is. randoms are supposed to be the place that new players can come in and learn pvp and enjoy non sweaty nolifes. It’s the exploiters and no life’s that can’t win rated that have infested and made casual pvp unplayable.

[Snowcrest-cenarius]

We get the sockets just because we can. The actual stat value you get out of them is quite small.

[Ronnek-grobbulus]

@Sacarthas-wyrmrest-accord

Apparently not with people needing to spend hours on a war crate farm just to get it and blowing 50k+ on embellishments and a socket.

People don’t need to spend hours on crate farming though. It’s just people are insanely lazy and always going to take the path of least resistance. If you took away crate farming, people wouldn’t stop playing. They’d just go to the next easiest route. Then they’ll enjoy their gear as they do in an rpg.

[Doors-illidan]

@Farbjodr-moon-guard

Not to mention crate farming exists as the most efficient gearing route and doesn’t involve getting farmed for a ‘few’ games.

This is actually awful, even if it is efficient. Spending 3 hours flying around and clicking a box isn’t engaging gameplay.

As a prerequisite for PVPing, while not hard, I think Blizzard could do something to make it more fun, i.e. just significantly buffing conquest gains Via all forms unrated PVP. I would MUCH rather play 20 BGs than fly around for 3 hours.

[Hadesu-stormrage]

I still don’t know why people still get attached to gear after how many cycles of just literally vendoring all the gear you spent months obtaining.

Like it’s the thing with the least longevity in the entire game and some people are still trying to make it a chore to get.

[Farbjodr-moon-guard]

@Doors-illidan

significantly buffing conquest gains Via all forms unrated PVP

I’m not saying I disagree with you. BGs give incredibly poor rewards for the time investment.

All I’m saying is gearing has never been easier, and yet we STILL have constant complaints about gearing being ‘too grindy’

[Carrasco-bonechewer]

But, it isn’t sweaty R1 players it is human nature. Like why wouldn’t you use every advantage such as sockets and enchants?

Like I don’t get why people complain all the sockets, enchants, and gear are available to everyone?

[Tinysha-tichondrius]

@Carrasco-bonechewer

Like why wouldn’t you use every advantage such as sockets and enchants?

Cause it takes time and gold? I haven’t used more than 2 sockets all xpac and I got legend on this toon last patch with just weapon enchants and no embellishments/sockets just cause I didn’t feel like using gold and crafting mats.

I get why people want gearing or would want templates but people complaining about needing bis are misguided

[Silverbolt-shadowmoon (Silverbolt)]

@Åstra-nemesis

The goal of PvP should be to outplay other players, not to have more equipment and sockets than them.

Sockets are actually a great idea imo. It gives a way to earn gold for people who don’t care about that extra bit of power, and also gives something to work on for those who do the MMORPG thing and play one character and don’t mind investing in it.

[Adroi-tichondrius]

@Åstra-nemesis

Crate farming is currently almost an exploitation through addons, where you farm “fantastic PvP gear progression” without actually playing PvP, hopping through crossrealm shards in the open world.

Don’t need addons for this. I just do it solo.

If you PvP and enjoy it, gear is a non-issue. We had templates and the majority of players didn’t like them.

[Nazramax-stormrage]

@Arttorious-frostmourne

it’s an RPG bro getting gear is part of the core gameplay to invest time into your toon getting progressively stronger as time goes on

I used to think that way. But the gearing process is just horrible.

Doing BG in pve hear meann gwtting 1 shotted till you get enough honor to be able tobafford just being weak.

Then you enter the misery of going negatives stats in rated till you can farm enough conq to compete.

Or, you waste your precious time doing war crate farming…

Crate farming wouldn’t existe if the gearing system was a fun part of wow pvp.