"In life, Nathanos Marris was a braggart and a bully."

Community General Discussion
1

Ok Sylvanas, we see what kinda guys you into now.

6 Likes
2

That line bothers the crap out of me since that is a direct retcon of Nathanos’ original story where he was well liked and considered a hero.
It’s amazing the lengths this new writing team will go to undermine the original plot.

42 Likes
3

Don’t worry, they’ll retcon that line and probably the one about him calling the Horde pathetic when we’re fighting him so they can readjust the story again.

A vicious cycle!

2 Likes
4

Nathanos: sounding absolutely feral Now things get INTERESTING

Me watching the cutscene: …uh oh

1 Like
5

I mean, having a human in the Farstriders wasn’t exactly popular move among the elves. As I recall, the only reason he was allowed to join was because Sylvanas used her status as Ranger-General to overrule everyone else.

12 Likes
6

Nathanos died the way he lived…perpetually trying to cough up a hair ball…

7 Likes
7

I just imagine his VA has to have some tea or something every recording session

2 Likes
8

That’s nothing new. In the original story, the Horde were bloodthirsty war mongers who had devoured their own world and were therefore driven to expand to Azeroth. They retconned them into nature-loving hippies whose past transgressions were chalked up to demonic machinations. In the original story, the Tauren were a light-hearted nod to the rumors of a secret Diablo cow level. They were retconned into canon lore and promoted to a main class. In the original story, the Pandaren were a one-off gag race of drunken warriors. They were retconned into wise pacifists who were drawn into the the Alliance/Horde conflict for reasons. Nathanos’ treatment is par for the course. That’s why I’ve never gotten into the WoW lore. It’s never felt earned. It always feels twisted to conform to the needs of the current game system.

13 Likes
9

In the original story the Orcs wiped out the Draenei. They retconned the story so that you’re still here for some reason.

11 Likes
10

No, everyone except Sylvanas didn’t like Nathanos back then because elves are racist.

Although yeah, they should’ve said Lor’themar never liked Nathanos because he didn’t want humans in the Farstriders, not because Nathanos was a “bully.”

8 Likes
11

Lor’themar is such a wimp. Who even uses word bully in adult life.

And forsaken been protecting silvermoon for ages against undead. And alliance. Including Nathanos.

7 Likes
12

Remember that it’s coming from Lor’themar himself, not some unbiased narrator. It’s entirely reasonable that he justified his hatred of Nathanos to himself by going “well, he’s a bully”. It’d be weird for him to go “in life I hated him because I’m horribly racist”.

10 Likes
13

I get where your coming from, but do remember the Blood Elves are not above being racist and very snooty. They outright hated him and Sylvanas working together, and most rangers resented a human being taught their ways. So honestly I’d take it with a grain of salt. What a Elf calls a braggart and a bully might well be, ‘being a human’ to others. Case and point, Tanis Halfelven’s treatment by the Elves in Dragonlance.

I tend to look at NPC statements and be like. “Well. That’s your opinion.”

2 Likes
14

Seeing how he acts, the description of him seems apt.

2 Likes
15

being racist is core race feature for elves in any universe. Used to be for wow aswell. And only windrunners were into humans

16

Sure, but it’s not racism just to be racist. There’s always some sort of justification (valid or not) behind it. They look down upon other races because they’re shorter lived, or have inferior culture, or less magical prowess, or are too reckless, or too shortsighted.

17

Offtopic but is he a weekly quest or a daily quest?

Also, I low-key wondered why it was his home if it was called “Blightcaller.” I think I need more sleep.

1 Like
18

The orcs wiped out the draenei, but they conveniently forgot to check Shattrath’s broom closet, where 12,000 more of them happened to be hiding.

6 Likes
19

For good reason.

A planet full of Orcs minding their own damn business and a bunch of blue goats crash into it, bringing all of their problems with them.

Everything that has happened to the orcs since is indirectly the fault of the Draenei attracting the Burning Legion to Draenor.

9 Likes
20

True statement, and I have the restraining orders to prove it.

6 Likes