I have experienced glided-based flight in games like Trove before. WoW’s implementation isn’t the most fun - and it’s kind of impractical in some cases - thus I have reverted back to steady flight.
Sky riding is mostly fine if you are flying level or downhill but if you need to climb a huge mountain you are kind of screwed.
Also getting stuck on the ground with no vigor charges is very frustrating.
Somethings that I feel will improve sky ridding and make it less frustrating:
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Remove CDs on vigor abilities. If I need to climb, I need to climb.
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Vigor charges should not recharge by flying at top speed but should immediately recharge to full the moment you touch the ground.
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There needs to be a way to expand the number of vigor charges.
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Optional: instead of mounts just give us wings we can activate by holding space.
In Trove you fly via wings and gain altitude by jumping (mid-air). “Jump” is actually a stat on gear so you can stack it. You gain back all your “jumps” the moment your feet touch the ground.
There is still an element of skill as jumps are a finite resource but you can adjust the “difficulty” and you are never stuck on the ground.
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Want to fly like you can in Trove?
Go play Trove.
Sky riding is fine.
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I hated Skyriding at 1st, but we got it out the gate with the xpac, so I embraced it and I got better at it.
I did the races, using the smallest flyer I had and I just got better.
Is it perfect, no, but it’s fast, and that’s the winner for me.
Steady flight is so slow now by comparison, I’d rather deal with the hiccups and be there quickly.
Am I being impatient? Hell yeah I am, I do not have the time to be “slow travelling”.
I like Skyriding, best QoL the game has ever had.
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More than fine. Don’t know how this person is running out of charges in the air, even while climbing. You climb, climb, climb, level out to recharge some more and climb. It isn’t rocket science.
I’ve never ever ran out of vigor with sky riding.
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Just suggesting IMHO improvements to WoW glide-based flight. No need to get defensive.
I wonder how many people would still use sky riding if steady flight was available right at the start of the expansion. That’s the true test of the quality of sky riding’s implementation.
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I’m sorry… we’re using Trove as an example for dynamic flying in WoW?
Not really. Just have to learn how to manage vigor.
Then it’s not as engaging with the environment.
Then you’re constantly landing and they’d remove vigor recharge abilities.
There already was in DF.
Odeargodno.
Trove is a mediocre version of Minecraft that Glyph acquired with Trion because Trion crashed their own gaming company by trying to put out too many games at once and failing to upkeep any of them decently.
Wings in that game sucked, imo.
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I like trove for what it is but there is a reason why everyone wanted the mount that created blocks while running. So you can run in the sky.
Wanting that over sky riding is crazy. It just tells me that OP has no idea how to sky ride.
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I don’t get charges unless I’m flying at max speed and the only way to get max speed is to dive which is the opposite of what I want.
Trying to directly climb using vigor abilities doesn’t work very well. You just run out of vigor if the mountain is high enough.
I found it meh. And I’m also bitter, because ArcheAge and Trove are why they dropped the ball on Rift.
Not to mention, they destroyed ArcheAge after we all beta tested it. They released an entirely different game.
And Rift was left to rot.
grumbles in corner
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Then you’re not doing it correctly. You need to get thrill of the sky buff and maintain it. All that is needed is to lower down slightly to get it while going fast. You climb climb climb, level out and keep your speed up with thrill of the sky, gain two vigor and climb some more. Don’t spam climb, you chain it. Do it correctly and you can regain vigor while climbing
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Indeed. I disagreed, and you’re getting defensive.
I’d bet golds to coppers that significantly more people skyride at 80 than don’t. The only people who steady fly on a regular basis are those unfortunate enough to have some sort of disability that makes skyriding difficult, or those too lazy to “git gud” at skyriding.
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Teach me.
I have already explained why Trove system is better - e.g. difficulty is adjustable, you don’t have downtime, … You have yet to explain to me sky riding’s advantages.
Mate, I literally never have down time with skyriding while you need to stack jump stats in trove. Literally just YouTube skyriding. People will teach you that you really only ever need two vigor to go from the ground to max height in the game.
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You mean the GCD on skyward ascent?
Nah, that’s actually awful.
Just don’t waste them and you are fine.
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Usually when people say, “Skill issue,” they’re really just rage-baiting, but in this case, your skill in utilizing sky riding has a huge impact on your experience. Even flying to the top of a mountain can be relatively easy if you’re using the right abilities. For instance, using Skyward Ascent while pointing up, instead of using Surge Forward, not only gives you more altitude, but it also keeps your Vigor regeneration going, and if you find yourself in a rare situation where your vigor is low, Second Wind is there.
I’m sure there are specific playstyles where static flying is easier or more convenient, but for myself, I never, ever use static flying, ever, and my game experience has been great.
I think it’s fine to criticize sky riding, but only once you’ve really explored and mastered the system.
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What the heck is that? I skipped DF BTW and only started the current expansion last Xmas.
All I know is I gain vigor (very slowly) when at high speeds. If I try to gain attitude, I lose speed really fast. If I try to maintain speed while climbing with vigor abilities, I spend vigor faster than I can regenerate it. If I blow through all my vigor charges, I’m effectively grounded.
After awhile I figured it was worth the trouble.
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This! If your flying up high, make sure your already going fast, keep the momentum going the best you can and you will even charge a few vigor flying upwards! If you need more just level out and regain that speed.
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If they’re not pointing up directly and using upward ascend, then they’re really doing it wrong. One climb gives you the thrill of the sky buff, it recharges while it climbs, keep doing it like 3 times, level out, maintain speeds to maintain the buff to recharge your vigor and then point up against and skyward ascend.
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You should check your sky riding talent tree and read what the talents do.
They give a good explanation of what the buttons do, the passive to regain vigor. Check out a YouTube video as well about sky riding. Do those two things and you will be a sky rider like Hiccup.
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It’s not very intuitive (nor forgiving*) for one. I wasn’t around for DF so all this is new and dumped on me all at once.
Trove’s system is simple enough that most people can subconsciously figure it out just by playing. The only thing that might trip you up is not noticing the jump stat.
* Lots of fun being stuck on the ground during a run of the Dawnbreaker dungeon.
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