You realize you can make a premade yourself right? Like it sounds like u lost before the gates even opened.
Wsg premades are the best pvp in the game. Maybe u should stick to av if u cant compete in wsg.
Our discord is about a week old I guess, but because only 1-2 people get grouped together itās not really taking off like the Alliance one. I personally am not even using it anymore because it just wasnāt worth waiting for the countdown and moving disc channels just to be alone. I may check it out again today as I understand theyāve been adjusting the queue countdown and such to try to increase participation.
Every AV Iām in, our goal is to cap towers and kill all LTs and CDRs to max bonus honor. Thereās not much HK farming that goes on except when the Alliance group defends Bal. BG chat is full of people screaming at the ones who hang out in mid.
The premade situation is just as bad for any alliance not in a premade, if not worse. There simply needs to be a change in the system
Pretty much. All three games Iāve played today have gone the same wayā¦ Horde smashes Alliance while most us donāt even bother trying. More often than not, any time I try to coordinate any kind of team work I just get yelled at.
Iād join a premade if I could, but I donāt have an epic mount so Iām not welcome. I donāt even care if I win, I just wanna play with people who can be bothered to try.
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wrong less alliance queuing is hordes fault?
first day of av queue times were 2m-3m and the same amount of horde are still playing so what has changed?less alliance are queuing thats the difference
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It also means they are in really good PvP gear related to their rank. You cannot discount the importance of 40 people being in full PvP gear vs a team in greens and blues and preBis. Then you add on voice comms and the fact they listen to a leader and stay togetherā¦
Demoralizing like after P2 when the Horde drove off half the subscription player base that was trying to level and run dungeon to get to 60, which ironically would have improved bg queue times. Karma is funny that way.
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Take it up with your people.
Thereās no fix because some people like it, some people donāt.
mhmm as some of us told you, alliance generally pick alliance since it got a edge in pve, while horde genrally pick horde since it have a edge in pvpā¦
Now playing pvp do give you perks and access to gear, and alot of pvers play to get exalted, once they are, their not interested in pvp at allā¦ wich we have explained to you guys for a very very long timeā¦
Its also why the ques is getting longer and longer, and will keep doing so
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Man I got thrown into an alliance premade at level 54 and we absolutely destroyed the horde. It was so much fun 
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But why are you Blaming horde for that ? Blizzard made the choice to enable honor without BGsā¦not Horde. Just like we Arenāt blaming Alliance for the premades - we blame blizz for not having a system in place for allowing Horde to also que, or nerfing honor in AV so they donāt feel the need to do so. You need to understand that these problems are oversights by Blizzard - of course players will develop an optimal system. In this case it only benefits the people using it, and hurts literally everyone else.
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you can que, and can do exactly what alliance doā¦ group ques for AV dident exist in 1.12ā¦
And even if there were group ques, alliance wouldent use it, so you wouldent face any alliance premades, all alliance that you call premades, yoin through single play
If anything the history supports my point, and proves it is definitely not a good example of the average vanilla experience.
you dont have to explain it to me i know one most of the alliance get their av rep they wont queue it anymore and thats why we have higher queue times on horde.
its pretty obvious dont you think?
Yes, it is, its why i wonder over all these horde forum threads regarding ques ?
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You realize there is a Horde discord set up and nearly 300-400 horde que together and we maybe get 2-3 in the same game. Soā¦no. We canāt do what you are doing. People try all day, every day. Please be informed before you post.
and thats just how it was back in the dayā¦ thank your pvp meta for thatā¦ que times exist thanks to people pick horde to get that pvp edgeā¦ we told you so, even before the classic was out, it was exactly the same back in classicā¦
And again, even if you could yoin as a real premade, alliance have no reason to do it, so you wont have any alliance premades to face, since all alliance is yoining as single playersā¦
#stillmadbecausestillbad
it should be obvious to them and nothing will fix it we just need ab to launch sooner.
I understand your situation, but I am curious at how do people think the Horde would respond if the roles were reversed?
My bet it would be similar to how they responded when Alliance stated Horde behavior (raid camping fpās and dungeon portals) after P2 was not good for the health of the game. In other words, PvP happens, gIT gOoD, go back to retail, and of course #nochanges.
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