Isn’t that how they said conduits would work?
I said it was unnecessary but effective.
It is unnecessary because the issues of a Covenant is apparent without it. That doesn’t mean the hypothesis is in anyway incorrect.
We already have dozens of threads just talking about covenants. A hypothesis thread doesn’t hurt any.
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I will not stress over covenants… Its really not an issue. Ill do all the content I want and ill do it however I want. Good covenant or the worst.
It took me ages to get the lash of the void corruption and I still only have one. Doesnt stop me from doing keys or raiding. Same thing. It didnt before and it didnt after.
least the covenants weren’t thought of the last min to make up, with the lost of artifact powers and ect. yes i remember az armor items only gave 3 rings then 4 and finally we moved up to 5, everything was added to late… maybe not late but just way to slow or unoriginal at first ;/
There is no functional difference between essence abilities and covenant abilities.
Yeah. Exactly.
Did I say it was incorrect? Pretty sure I just said it was unnecessary.
I think the way this thread is presented hurts its argument. It asks the reader to imagine an alternate reality that didn’t happen and then to make conclusions on player reactions that also never happened.
I just think it is a weak way to make a persuasive argument.
What if I don’t ever swap out?
I used a hypothetical example because some people don’t seem to grasp how bad this system will be, so I created a hypothetical example of how it would work applied to a system we already know.
Also since posting I’ve had more time to think about it. Its even worse than I originally posted so I updated the OP and further fleshed it out for the sake of clarity.
Is it possible that they might actually just like the design and that is why they cannot “grasp how bad this system will be”?
From what I read of those in approval of the current covenant design, they seem just as informed about how it works as anyone else; they just don’t disagree with the design.
People who care at all about how they play will recognize this from the beginning. The issue for them is how many times they can do it before saying, “Enough!”
There will always be supporters of this system posting about how happy you would be if only you made a commitment to be a bad player like they have done.
The overwhelming majority of whom seem to like it primarily because it hurts “min-maxers” or “elitists” and not so much because of any supposed merit to the system.
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You mean like azerite gear that they spent half the expac overhauling because “we know better than the players giving us feedback”?
I have seen that expressed but not as a singular point standing alone in favor of the design. That sounds more like a Ralph post but even he has more than just that reason.
Do some people like it solely because it hurts a specific group?
Perhaps, but I would hardly use my time trying to convince them to my side.
I don’t have to imagine.
It really sounds like you have less of an issue with how he made the comparison then with why he did and instead of talking about the merits of the comparison you are attacking the fact that he made it.
Then it should be very easy to debunk vs. spending the time arguing about the virtue of making the comparison.
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I think some people may have liked Azerite.
It’s subjective. People are going to have differing opinions on stuff like that.
Except in this system you still only have to do the grind once. Not completely redo the grind every time you switch between characters.
Swing and a miss with the straw man there bub.
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Some people liking it is aside from the point. It was a bad system, blizzard was told it was a bad system, they didn’t change it because “the players giving feedback don’t really know it’s bad”, it launched as a bad system despite being told it was bad, and spent half an expac of dev time to rework it.
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Wait? You only have to level, do dungeons, reps, and raids once? Weird, cause I have to regrind it all on all of my alts.
Seems like that would be a much better essence system. I would not mind it as much.
Thanks for making the point for us that this new covenant system is nice.
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