I think the notion of a High Elf with her undead human lover as Warchief and Co while there is a plethora of actual Horde heroes on the Horde is ridiculous, and that Sylvanas is way too often presented as being too unrealistically cunning. Watching her be the best dark ranger, awesome banshee, etc. (plus those perfect round brea…. ahem never mind) plot armor at the start of the expansion had me rolling my eyes, hard.
But… I like that her weakness is finally being shown as a real problem for the Horde. Potentially, anyway. We’ve yet to see how it all turns out, and if she ends up being shown to have been right all along, I’ll throw up a bit. But it seems like Blizzard might actually be willing to explore some realistic consequences of putting her in charge. Right now we seem to have the start of division in the Horde, with Thrall, Baine, Saurfang and, reluctantly, Lor’themar starting to do their own thing.
Which is what her character needs! Characters that are right all the time and always escape consequences are boring! Sylvanas needs to be wrong, face the consequences, and learn for us to buy her as anything more than a cliched fantasy trope. Let’s hope Blizzard follows through.
For real. If they stop making it like Sylvanas is some 4d chess master all the time and that she’s capable of being wrong, then she might actually be interesting.
Sylvanas uses her skills and escapes on her own blimp. I did not find her escape boring.
Anduin gets ported by Auntie Jaina onto her ship. That was kind of lame.
Sylvanas’s escape is at least her own effort and her own ship. Anduin has other people dragging him away to escape his problems while he stands there stupefied.
She flies away while screaming… and plague bombs her own city. Pretty boring to me. Hopefully Blizzard ends this terrible 4D chess plot with her and makes her finally suffer some consequences for her actions.
Well “boring” is a matter of taste. You say it is boring. I disagree.
Baine standing there on the escape blimp, looking like the innocent little brother hanging out with his older sister and her bad friends, made me giggle. Nathanos should have offered him a smoke.
At least Sylvanas engineered her own escape. It is less boring in my mind watching a character escape from a death trap after her enemies claimed her city and attempt to seize her. That is an escape I can enjoy.
Anduin is literally dead weight standing around stupefied while Auntie Jaina makes an escape for him.
If I am going to watch a know-it-all escape consequences , I find more enjoyment if they are actively escaping. Instead of being hauled like mindless freight. But that is a matter of taste.
My issue with Sylvanas is how gratuitously blood thirsty she is. While her blood lust isn’t anything new, the whole burning of Teldrassil really served no purpose other than to shock the player base. As I said, it is gratuitous, and it it’s really kind of ruined the character for me, when before she was one of my favorites.
This was a cool moment but unlucky for Godfrey since Sylvanas got that Dues Ex Machina 9 Lives Valkyrie to save her whenever she does die like this. Sylvanas is the only character with literal extra lives at her disposal which makes her “I’m a 4d chess master” stuff even more cringe.
Sylvanas would be better if she did a better job selling the benefit of staying behind her instead of going “NO WEAKNESS”. Garrosh at least appealed to the darker side of Orcs in a demagogue sort of way.
She had a deal with Helya, didn’t she? I’m guessing that it was for the lantern, but since we didn’t actually see everything that was said to be part of the deal, Blizzard could just as easily go “she dead… BUT NOW HELYA HAPPENS SHE BACK NOW”.
It also helped create a crack on the Alliance… she said it to Saurfang from the start, it’s all or nothing. Saurfang accepted and detracted mid way, at least she is true to her word.
I agree I don’t like her as a crazed b##ch but can’t deny she has had reasons (I’d rather had seen her explicitly lashing at Saurfang for letting Malf go and having burn the tree with civilians as plan B).
The problem with Sylvanas burning Teldrassil is that it completely undermines the entire campaign. They needed Teldrassil as a hostage to prevent retaliation from the Alliance. She threw her victory out the window. Teldrassil, as horrible as it was for the Alliance, actually served to be one of the Horde’s greatest defeats, and ultimately the reason they are now losing the war.
To me , retaliation was exactly what she wanted, considering how well she planned the UC stink bomb. What she never considered (non of us, admit it) was the unlimited Jaina Power….
ooor that the Alliance has a Vindicar, a Champion of Elune, the Child of Light (with combat mass res), a light-anointed Undead, the Voidtoys….ok, ok ill stop triggering myself (Though, no shame in my allegiances).