I'm in favor of the timeskip

3 years for an elf is probably just like a long weekend anyhow.

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I’m so happy to see this response! Just one thing though, stop the ā€œshipā€ please! I really don’t have any interest in my leader getting married!

if he was 18/19 at start of SL, 20/21 by the end plus 5 during his ā€˜therapy wandering’…he comes back 25/26. Good age. Eyes Taelia.

I’m honestly fine with the idea of a time skip like this from a narrative point of view. But I hope we’ll at least see something of it reflected in game. Surely the night elf and worgen refugees will have some more established lives in stormwind by this time, for example. Surely there’s been some reconstruction in silvermoon. Surely the void elves have built something in telogrus and aren’t still living in gazebos on rocks.

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Will there be some kind of official timeline with all the games/expansions since The Dark Portal? It would be nice to understand how many years have passed between important events. Also, it’s so great to know Jaina is OFFICIALLY in her 40s! People kept laughing at me when I told them there was NO WAY she was only 30.

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Why do you oppose their marriage?

Potentially, Thalyssra and Lor’themar’s marriage would form the most powerful coalition of Elves that Azeroth has ever seen and that prospect interests me greatly.

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Also…

Alliance dudes with issues : FinAllY an ExpAnsiOn wiThouT SylVanS, the GenOCiDal B***…

Someone makes a thread about time skip, which gets answered by THE HEAD OF NARRATIVE…

Alliance dudes with issues : * makes it somehow about Sylvanas…

Like… Are you okay buddy? Do you want some Ativan? Darth Vader’s infantry and ground armament is the WORST, he makes the worst tactical decisions (rebuilding a Death Star that was proven to be easily destroyed, fear-mongering leadership which only bolstered the Rebels), he is co-leading a authoritative system based on 2 powerful individuals prone to betray each other… Yet, still the most loved villain of all time…

And here you are, still trying to enumerate ā€œodditiesā€ that are ALL explained in-game just because you refuse to acknowledge the clear explanations. Honestly, your will to rant endlessly on a character that is neither present nor mentioned by anyone is borderline concerning. Your lack of chills is disturbing. :wink:

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Let’s not flatter Danuser too much. Everything after BfA was a dumpster, even if he had to pick up the pieces.

From Forsaken Night Elves who willingly followed Sylvanas, with the story-part had to be rewritten four times on the ptr to reducing Arthas to a mere 250 anima reward and Garrosh becoming dust and a job for your magic broom pet.

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Welp. It seems they went with the worse possible option.

The Forsaken reclaimed Lordaeron in the year 37 in game and apprently have spent the last 3 years just discussing how they plan on rebuilding it? Because it’s still a ruin and they still mostly live on the streets of Orgimmar.

The Night Elves have been homeless in game time for 7 years now, and were given the ā€œSeed of Renewalā€ 3+ years ago and have apparently done nothing with it since. The night elven people still live on the streets of Stormwind and on a farm behind it.

The Gilneans have been homeless in game time for 12 years now, with Calia talking about maybe giving Gilneas back(even though there is conflicting lore on who even owns it to give) and apparently over the course of 3 years no headway on that is made at all. Gilneans still live on the streets of Stormwind.

Sentinel Hill in Westfall has been on fire in game for 12 years in game time, and in real world time. A book talked about it starting to be rebuilt, starting to, 7 years ago in game time. Meaning it was a burned down ruin for 5 years. Now that 7 more years have past; still no changes.

Gnomeregan has been lost with the gnomes being homeless for 20 YEARS! in game time now(18 years in real world time, since WoW launched), and they apparently spent this 3 year gap doing nothing about that. Gnomes still live in tents on the surface outside Gnomeregan or in Ironforge with the Dwarves.

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Yup, this time jump makes absolute and total sense. /s

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There is Chronicles which is as official as it gets but it only go until year 25. Which is the start of Vanilla WoW. It does not mention how long each expansion takes.

Personally I dont mind another short about their relationship. Having said that I am hoping the alliance gets its own short. I don’t particular care enough about there story to be too invested in it.

It doesn’t. And the worst part is, the money they earn from us is not even used accordingly to the grandā„¢ ideas they have.

I do expect far more from the #1 played MMO and even FF14 delivers better content and story than them. What happens really with the money we invest in them?

Okay, but let’s be clear, there’s an entire narrative ā€˜team’ it’s not just Danuser by himself.

It’s easy to blame the face of the team, but in reality it’s an entire team effort, not just one person.

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Going to go out on a limb here as well and guess that Menethil Harbor is still underwater 12 years later too. And that Theramore is still a crater with no attempt at resettling there.

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Which makes it even more sadder, don’t you think?
All they can do is world-building, without bringing in enough characters to make them important. And if they are important, it’s all in the books. Characters get killed off for the rule of cool without having actual big impacts and it remembers me more of a Final Destination movie. You have some random characters with basic characteristics but they all get killed off.

But as long as Hazzikostas has the power, the game will degenerate further. No evergreen content, no more class fantasies, not enough story and the gameplay loop is not good enough. Perhaps it was really the best move to lend the game over to Microsoft.

Can some one tell me what my character was doing for last 5 years? He have no job because there is no reasonable job system in wow. He have no home so probably he was sleeping under orgrimmar gate for 5 years. Can you explain this?

Clearly you have NOT been paying attention to WoW development.

9.2, 9.2.5 and now Dragonflight are all being received very well. Major improvements, both in overall gameplay and feedback response. I can actually count the number of issues most folks have issues with in Dragonflight on one hand.

And it’s pretty much Soar (and the nerf to it, although complaints have somewhat reduced since the CD reduction was implemented) and what may be happening to Malfurion. That’s more or less it. Compare this to Shadowlands and whoo boy, much different experience there because there were a LOT of complaints about Shadowlands in alpha and beta, and many of the issues complained about were not addressed.

Where as in Dragonflight thus far, when there has been a lot of complaints/feedback about something, there’s usually a change made. Multiple talent trees have gotten significant changes as a direct result of feedback, and there’s obviously the CD reduction to Soar that’s also there as a direct result of feedback.

They don’t get it right all the time, but it’s obvious they’re trying to regain player trust at this point.

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Well, I guess you should have paid more attention. The game got a second wind with 9.1.5 actually, when they started to tear down most of the restrictions. I do not understand why you start to list it with 9.2, which is an incorrect assumption.

Going forward, you also forget that these changes normalized the gameplay loop which was seen in the older content (MoP/WoD/Legion). These are not ā€œmajor improvementsā€, we’re just going back to what it was supposed to be in the first place.

That’s not good enough. Everyone who has been playing the game for longer than two expansions can see where the problems are. The game was build around MAU and it clearly shows. There was no reason to change the Legion World Quest system or the working gameplay loop either but they did it anyway.

Dragonflight may look good for now but most of the players are still waiting for the catch. And there is always one.

This is what’s called ā€˜setting the bar too high’.

You’re free to do that, but don’t expect people to take you seriously when you do.

I would agree with you here, yes - however, WoW is the most played MMO in the world and for some reason even FF14 can dish out more content and story with a smaller team. Either the money really just ends up for another yacht or they reduced their workforce so much that we only get scraps.

At least the art and sound team delivers.

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I hope the poor children running around stormwind have finally gotten older. Some of them are anduins age and they are perpetually 9 fighting over toys or complaining about how long shopping is taking.

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