I'm glad Calia is part of Forsaken leadership

It’s nice to see that, after all these years, Blizzard is making an actual effort to finally reconcile things between the Alliance and the Horde in a meaningful way. Getting the global communities at large to begin accepting the Forsaken, who are the hardest to swallow and to tolerate Horde faction, is massive step forward.

Hopefully the first real steps to a less fractured Azeroth.

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I mean, Baine’s been shilling for them since Cata so putting pro-Alliance leadership in the Horde isn’t new.

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Baine and Lor’themar were the only two sensible leaders the Horde have, especially after Vol’jin got kakked. I like Gazlowe, he’s a nice gobbo, but he’s not a leader.

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It’s because we are so bony. :bone:

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Stop using Blight and instead utilize UD Forsaken DKs to create meat shield Scourge armies to keep the Forsaken casualties to a bare minimum.

And let them utilize Necropoles. All over their holdings.

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You like Calia because she’s an Alliance-themed character that has nothing in common with the rest of the Forsaken, the exact reason Forsaken mains hate her.

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I mean, boo hoo? How long do they think they can be edgy and depressed and bio weapon happy before more Greymanes show up to stomp them flat?

Alliance factions know how to play ball with global politics. You need to learn to play ball. Sylvanas only brought the Blood Elves into the Alliance so that they’d act as a shield for the Forsaken. Lor’themar has wisened up and the puppet mistress of the Forsaken is irrevocably a different person and doing dailies in the Maw.

Forsaken needs to spin a new angle if they don’t want all the living to start thinking about why they’re still allowing them to exist.

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She’s a forced narrative that we have no choice but to accept. If you like her, cool. Plenty of us don’t. A ghostly skin tone doesn’t make you Forsaken. One of the reasons I wasn’t fond of Sylvannas either.

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Sylvanas is literally the only reason you’re part of a community and a nation, instead of target practice and crusade victims.

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Alliance approves of Alliance lapdog in Horde leadership.

News @ 11.

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Horde wants to stay renegade bad boys with no consequences.

News @ 11.

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I don’t care. She’s another forced narrative. I was never a Sylvannas fanboi and I’m certainly not now.

I like Forsaken for the same reason many other people do. We rep a punk rock vibe and we look gross/badbuttz. Give us a leader that does the same.

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You make absolute no sense.

How is the literal, original narrative reason for you existing a “forced narrative”? She scooped you up like the wayward children you were and made you the Forsaken. There were no Forsaken before Sylvanas. You were literally nothing.

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Mmmm… interesting :thinking:

But yes from an Alliance perspective it’s good to have Calia in her current form as she’ll be more diplomatic and represents what was previously underrepresented, the Forsaken who want their life back and aren’t completely consumed by the rage of the grave and seething spite for the living, people who we’ve only seen in game a few times.

But I suppose she’s a negative for traditional Forsaken fans that liked them as they started off as, slightly less evil Undead forming a nation of independent unliving to make their mark in the world and secure their future, rather than be shambling hordes of mind slaves like the undead Scourge. Although Sylvanas did overshadow much of the Forsakens own story.

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Forced narrative means we had no choice in the action. Just because lore dictates xyz doesn’t mean myself or anyone else has to like it. We’re forced to acknowledge it because we don’t have a choice.

Hydaelyn did no wrong ™

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The irony of Blizzard deciding the divine punishment of a character who has committed dozens of atrocities is to do the exact thing they believe we should be happy with and call “content” lol.

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Do you get angry when an author writes a novel a specific way?

The Forsaken were created in Warcraft III.

Edit: I don’t play FF, so don’t get that reference.

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Garrosh 2025!! Make the Horde great again!!

For years the Forsaken have basically been in thrall to Sylvanas. I’m hoping that now they can have more of their own stories rather than just being extras in the Sylvanas show.

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The problem is, a population can’t be solely defined by rage and a total xenophobia. That quickly gets them labeled as a threat by all their neighbors and a rational target for extermination campaigns.

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