Having spent early Season 1 doing M+, getting Curve, and leveling renown with the various factions, I thought I would give PVP a shot. I’m not a pvper by nature, I do the occasional battleground when the weeklies call for it, but I’m no giga chad pvper. Tossed on wm to do pvp world quests and grab bloody tokens, test the pvp waters. Lotta dying but i get the idea. Crate drops are cool, have had some fun battles. Started doing tour of duties for the zones. This is where the confusion comes in:
Doing Tour of Duty: Isle of Dorn this morning, I was confronted by an angry alliance player who said I suck and whatnot, i’m killing my own faction what a loser basically. I was killing players in the WQ at the top of the map where you get to ride the rams. I had fun, died many times. I would go from the WQ area to the crate drop and see red players. I dont read their name, class, faction. If they are attackable kill them, as almost everyone else does to me. kill or be killed mentality. Not maliciously or anything, but waiting for the guys who aren’t red to open crate by running a little defense.
BOTTOM LINE: why can alliance attack alliance? I can understand the bounty system which I had received one and then expediently died, removing the bounty. But for alliance flying in to get crate, they are red to me, I kill them or attack, they get mad?? Why does this exist.
I’m not a mean spirited person, but i am unexperienced in pvp. Did i do something wrong? Miss etiquette? Tips and suggestions appreciated TY
When you leave a free-for-all area, you’re still flagged to everyone for a short period of time. This is why people make the mistake of seeing red and instantly assuming it’s the opposite faction.
I guess it seemed like this guy was either low lvl or low ilvl and trying to get crate, idk. Was marked hostile to me. Maybe i could be more cautious but i kinda feel like its the risk you take in wm, being able to be killed anytime out in the world, on edge so to speak. Just didnt realize i had prob been killing my own faction
@ryon You’re okay. I killed you for your bounty this morning (on my BE priest) and you gave a good fight several times. I noticed the alliance attacking you, I assumed because i was the only horde player in the zone they needed something to finish the quest, and the seeming complete lack of Ram spawns on that hill top would be why. Everyone wants instant gratification. I don’t turn off war mode, but seeing as you asked about ettiquette, I typically refrain from attacking same faction players even when it’s FFA. Most horde do and a good percentage of alliance do as well. That hill top has as mentioned, a really crappy respawn rate on those rams. In the other zones i.e., the mole area, the NPCs spawn much much quicker. As others have replied in the thread, it’s a personal choice to give regard to nameplates even if wpvp has always been if it’s red it’s dead. Again, personal choice but you did nothing wrong. Horde have to cooperate a bit more if they arent in a pvp community these days. The sheer number of alliance makes crates and pvp WQs a bit of a challenge for horde faction these days.
Well, we know who the real loser is in that situation and it wasn’t you.
Sure if everyone is alliance it makes it hard to cap the chest, but PVP is PVP. I will take what I can get. Alliance or no, I will try to kill you.
Others may see it differently.
Mostly I am just glad to hear other people are doing PVP when they wouldn’t normally. Welcome! And anyone being salty is out of line and can be ignored.
Uhh sorry but I disagree with everyone in this thread, at least when it comes to crates, the FFA spots are for exactly that, “free for all”.
But at crates, especially now that horde actually put up a fight most days, you should absolutely be aware of what faction you are attacking. Remember, YOU lose the crate as well if the horde open it because you were busy trying to kill someone of your own faction. On the other hand even if they are red, if they are your faction you still get the crate.
Also, many people who farm crates are keeping this in mind, so even if you are red to them they wont view you as an enemy and won’t attack, waiting for you to eventually realize your mistake and stop attacking, because hey it happens sometimes. If you don’t and you go out of your way to chase them down, or worse even multiple people, yeah people are going to be mad at you. And in my opinion rightfully so.
Sure, there’s nothing “wrong” with it in the sense of the ToS no. But in the eyes of most of those farming the crates… Yes, it’s seen as a d*ck move, which is why you will eventually see people start to call “ally” the more you do this, and more ppl will continue to call you out. I kinda view it as griefing because you are actively going to the crate only to prevent your faction from getting it, including yourself. You aren’t actually trying to get the crate at that point you are actively doing your best to NOT get it and make sure your own faction doesn’t as well.
Well, you’re saying the same thing as us. And contradicting yourself. My personal choice is not to fight the same faction if i can avoid it. Especially around the crates. If I pop a Shadow Crash on a pesky ally and there happens to be a bunch of toons in the vicinity, there’s going to be splash and potential friendly fire. Unless you’re attacking me directly though, I’m not going to sick a fiend on you or pop off a spell. I choose not too.
OP, don’t worry about it. I’ve done the same thing on a toon, but people were pretty nice about it. You just got the bad luck of a dork-o who felt the need to rage. Unfortunately blizz created these free-for-all areas to attempt to make up for poor faction balance, so it can get confusing.
This is important feedback. I had been confused as to why I saw messages in /s stating so, figured it was just people talking like they do in /1. From what I’ve seen the war crates are pretty good engagement for people working together towards an objective. I was completely UNAWARE:
This doesn’t make sense to me personally because folks can fly into a sanctuary and be safe from pvp. I.E: instantly removing a flag for a reason, they should be able to switch the flag from the free for all sword to a faction flag, but idk. I just expected that for the longest time pvp occurred against opponets of the OPPOSITE faction. I dont know when this change occured as im not a regular pvper…
I personally don’t like the fighting your own faction thing. But the fact is is that if they didn’t make those world pvp quests FFA, then Alliance would hardly have anyone to fight.
Having some ffa area’s like black rook hold and Gurubashi Arena Is fine but having every world pvp zone be ffa is nothing more than the laziness of the current wow dev team on display.
My first crate for TWW and I had NO idea that the world PVP quests also turned into a FFA against your own faction. I jumped in and immediately just start unleashing hell upon everybody trying to not let them get the crate.
It was only a minute later I was being whispered and told in chat that I was attacking Alliance and people were PISSED at me lol. I simply explained I am newish to PVP and had no idea about the FFA thing.
We all laughed it off in the end and made up, and went on our separate ways. Good times.
