I'm confused why some players are upset about the instance cap

[Drinknblink-whitemane]

Yea those 2 farms will be hit.

What’s funny is I sell Sm boosting on my server and the prices for the runs are already going up lol.

If I did 30 lockouts of SM I’d still make 1200 gold a day from just buyers. Not counting looting.

[Banti-bigglesworth]

and there is the weirdest part of it all.
the boosts won’t go away, they’ll just cost more, which will in turn raise the value of items.

[Drinknblink-whitemane]

Yea the SM boosts went up 2g a run so far on my server, from 8g to 10g.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

@Esimpure-whitemane

You severely underestimate how powerful SGC is.

… You severely overestimate it, actually. It’s barely an upgrade over Deathdealer Breastplate. It’s barely an upgrade over multiple items.

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Delimicus-heartseeker

… You severely overestimate it, actually. It’s barely an upgrade over Deathdealer Breastplate. It’s barely an upgrade over multiple items.

It’s the best piece until either r13 (which is debatable), or AQ40 gear - and that’s a lot of competition. For a dungeon piece that is insanely powerful. Yes, Deathdealer is a downgrade in raw stats, but that’s still a noticeable amount.

We can absolutely go without it. We just shouldn’t have to.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

Deathdealer is less than a 1% DPS downgrade.

@Esimpure-whitemane

You severely underestimate how powerful SGC is.

0.8% more powerful than a Blue.

Wow, so powerful.

SGC is also a downgrade over tons of items on fights you’re using reck on.

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Delimicus-heartseeker

Deathdealer is less than a 1% DPS downgrade.

I’d like to see the hard numbers, but again - personal progression is a bad thing?

[Banti-bigglesworth]

We should just ask Blizzard which items we are allowed to farm now.

[Stango-benediction]

Its 6 hrs of farming. I did 3 to 4 hrs day to get my sgc. This should cut down on the gold inflation and the botting of zg. I am not sure how 6 hr limit on instance farming is a bad thing. Why is any one farming preraid bis when zg and mc are free loots. We need more changes to fight bots and professional gamers killing the economy.

[Banti-bigglesworth]

@Stango-benediction

6 hr limit on instance farming

there isn’t a limit for the bots, they just log onto another server, instance farm/sell there for 6 hours, do it again, and again, and again…

Blizz did literally nothing to combat bots.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

I’m simming right now and with this pretty standard Human Warrior setup, Malfurion’s Blessed Bulwark is simming about 0.3% DPS higher than SGC. Deathdealer’s is simming 0.8% lower than SGC, like I said.

Cadaverous Armor is simming 1 DPS higher than SGC.
Zandalar Vindicator Breastplate is simming 5 DPS lower than SGC.

[Numboftbeast-herod]

@Bluryu-dalaran

The hourly cap of 5 per hour, sure, everyone has had that problem before. But 30/day? That’s pretty intense. I’ve seen people say they are planning on quitting because they can’t help their friends anymore? Wow! You must be an amazing friend to run someone through THIRTY dungeons daily… I don’t see it happening? Is this really a thing?

Even people that farm dungeons for gear, do you really make THIRTY attempts a day? Don’t you burn out and do something else?

This change is a good change imo. All it hurts is bots and sweaty tryhards

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Delimicus-heartseeker

I’m simming right now and with this pretty standard Human Warrior setup, Malfurion’s Blessed Bulwark is simming about 0.3% DPS higher than SGC. Deathdealer’s is simming 0.8% lower than SGC, like I said.

Cadaverous Armor is simming 1 DPS higher than SGC.
Zandalar Vindicator Breastplate is simming 5 DPS lower than SGC.

It is interesting, depends on buffs and debuffs. Perhaps Kings pushes raw stats higher than crit %. Plus it also depends on the boss itself.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

Kings and ZG buff.

This is the sim if you’re curious:
https://guybrushgit.github.io/WarriorSim/

[Numboftbeast-herod]

@Delimicus-heartseeker

I’m simming right now and with this pretty standard Human Warrior setup, Malfurion’s Blessed Bulwark is simming about 0.3% DPS higher than SGC. Deathdealer’s is simming 0.8% lower than SGC, like I said.

Cadaverous Armor is simming 1 DPS higher than SGC.
Zandalar Vindicator Breastplate is simming 5 DPS lower than SGC

Who cares go find a job lol

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Delimicus-heartseeker

Kings and ZG buff.

This is the sim if you’re curious:
https://guybrushgit.github.io/WarriorSim/

I fully admit I don’t know enough about Warriors to get into the nitty gritty, but it looks like SGC there is 7 DPS higher than Cadaverous. That’s a fair amount (even though it doesn’t seem like it), and Cadaverous is a worse farm imo than SGC.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

You need to adjust the sim based on race, gear and buffs. I adjusted it to for Human and added ZG buff as it wasn’t counting it.

[Majinbruh-netherwind]

You seem to be treating this like people are running 30 full hour instances which is totally wrong. The dagger off of princess for instance. I can do 5 runs through her in 30 minutes or so. It’s taken people well over a thousand runs to get the dagger. Good luckhaving any chance at getting one now and it was already impossible before at .02% drop

[Esimpure-whitemane]

@Delimicus-heartseeker

You need to adjust the sim based on race, gear and buffs. I adjusted it to for Human and added ZG buff as it wasn’t counting it.

I mean I will fully defer to the people who crunch the numbers regularly with this one. Until AQ40, SGC is still considered BiS.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

Your original statement:

@Esimpure-whitemane

You severely underestimate how powerful SGC is.

I don’t think you know what powerful means. It’s not a significant upgrade and in some cases is a downgrade over many other items at this point in time.