Hey everyone, I haven’t played in a long time and I’m just confused with DF. So I hit 70 today, did some world quests for some better gear and am queueing in the meantime for normal dungeons for 346 gear. I’m currently 343 and am pretty far down the dragon skill tree as I’ve been getting the ability coins. I’m just confused about a few things. normal dungeons are 60-70 and I’m barely able to do any dps because a 62 marks hunter is doing 85K dps? what? this happens all the time regardless of class but sometimes I’m on top. my meter broken? where are the mining nodes? I’ve flown around forever without seeing even 1. Why do normal enemies feel like I’m fighting elites? why are people getting booted so fast from dungeons for simply not understanding a short cut no one spoke about? I’m just confused if this is all normal now or I’m playing a beta version of the game? I’m also confused with the new talents as they add so many unnecessary buttons to your action bars when a lot of them could be combined for a more streamlined experience…Dragon flight is ok I guess but it seems like an idea that was much better on paper then it is in practice and no one bothered to criticize it for its obvious short comings…am I crazy and missing some crucial information or is DF an incredibly unpolished, unbalanced experience? There are a lot of good things about it but I feel without some realistic explanations this game is absolutely not for new or returning players as advertised.
Just stop what you’re doing, get an addon that shows you all the coin locations, and get them all. Trust me.
Scaling between different level players in dungeons does weird things. You are scaled based on the quality of the gear you are wearing for your level - your damage is normalised based on how well geared you are compared to your level. A 62 hunter who is mythic geared from 60 will do a LOT more damage in a normal dungeon than a 70 warrior who is a fresh 70 at 343.
Don’t stress the small stuff; normal dungeons are functionally irrelevant after leveling. Just go straight to heroics and forget about normals; or better yet, if you can get into groups go to mythics instead.
They are literally everywhere. Don’t have an answer for this. I suppose get your dragonflight complete so you can go faster, but there are so many more nodes now than there ever were before.
They don’t. This is a skill issue.
Never seen this, ever. Especially not in normals. Not the full story is my guess.
There are plenty of bugs in the game, but nothing you have described would indicate a b eta.
Play a build that adds less buttons. You will perform less well, but only if you were going to play optimally with those buttons anyway. Add more abilities in as you learn to use them. If you’re struggling, and you have the option to simplify, the answer is sitting right there in your control.
Plenty of people criticized plenty of things, but very few of them have anything to do with what you are talking about in this thread. Most of these things are problems with you, not problems with dragonflight. Level scaling in normal dungeons is definitely weird and unintuitive but ultimately doesn’t matter at all, and it’s fair enough not to like the new talent trees but they have been received overwhelmingly positively; the rest is purely you.
New and bad aren’t synonyms. Plenty of new players are able to acclimate perfectly quickly and get back into the game; many have. Look for internal solutions to problems before blaming external problems that mightn’t even exist.
This post started off as a reasonable, new player with some reasonable questions, and ended up being a whinge thread from a maligned player that I’m not even sure isn’t just a veiled alt trying to make things that aren’t problems look like problems. If you’re actually a new player, just accept that you aren’t going to be the top tier and know anything straight up; play, read, learn, assume you don’t know something rather than something doesn’t work, and eventually you’ll be in a position to know the difference.
Something that may help with combat is to check out icy-veins,for your build and rotation.
I have done that but I have also seen people say its trash and a lot of their explanations are actually nonsensical. So i go to wowhead and see different builds.
I’m just asking questions, when did this game become R6S?
Lower level players are the heroes in weirdly scaled dungeons. You won’t see that in heroics, where everyone is 70.
Nail on the head.
this is my only character? I’m legitimately asking questions and am just looking for some explanations and guidance because I’m not in a guild and play alone so perhaps people have had the same experience.
I’ve only ever seen this once, If you listen to the forums they’ll have you believe blinking to often got them kicked from a normal dungeon but its not that bad.
Thats due to the biggest nerf in wows history. It happens every xpac and i hate it. You messed up… and hit max level… The mobs scaled with your level but as soon as you hit max they scale up to their max level scaling. You’re meant to dominate them after you get lots of gear but before that they rock you. One second you’re a god then… DING and you’re useless… I hate it
thank you, so I’m not crazy in feeling this way 
Not a bad set of questions I think.
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Get the dragonflight sigils as soon as possible – get a map addon called Handy Notes (there is one for the flying sigils as well) and then just go and get them all. Flying around becomes much, much easier and more enjoyable.
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Normal dungeons have wonky scaling due to gear vs your level. Just run heroics, where everyone is level 70 and you won’t see that.
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Mining nodes are where they usually are. This likely resolves itself when you have better flying, I am guessing.
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Enemies will be hard when you first ding 70 because they immediately scale up for a decently geared level 70 character. They are in no way scaled for a fresh level 70. So gear up and it will get better.
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The new talent trees are set up to allow players to pick between passive options, which are easier to play but offer more static and less dynamic advantages, and more active abilities (more buttons) which are harder to play but offer more dynamic advantages. You can have a more passive approach and then move towards a more active one as you are comfortable with it. The top performers use button-heavy trees, but you don’t need to worry about that.
In all, just relax a bit. Wowhead is helpful to get you up to speed on the state of various things and is easy to digest. Some people find icy veins helpful as well.
For the mining nodes thing – make sure you actually are tracking the nodes. Click the binoculars icon in the upper left hand corner of your map square and double check that you have the tracking on.
Thank you. So i’m assuming gearing the traditional way is still the way to go? Normal->heroic->mythic/LFR?
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thats because dungeon dps is scaled so usually lower level people will out dps max level unless the max level player is heavily geared.
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did you actually learn dragonflight mining? if so did you click the “find nodes” button in your mini map? if not thats why. each expac has it’s own profession system now so u need to learn them individually you don’t need to do the prior you just need to learn the mining part from dragonflight profession trainer by purchasing it.
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they feel like elites cause you just hit 70. with gear it gets easier but it feels like that at first. at 343 though im guessing your rotation is off or your stats are off.
rest just gets easier with time. i didn’t know wth i was doing in the dungeons i just follow people. we wiped few times on certain mechanics but someone explained and we downed the bosses.
Pro tip - do the elemental storms and the quest in valdraken it gives you 1 sigil from the quest and 8 total from all 4 storms it takes about 10minutes or less if you do it in a group but if you solo it just dont kill the elite mobs. gets you like 385 gear but you need enough tokens from farming the storms just to buy the 1st piece then upgrade that piece to 385 with the sigils. it’s once a week and an easy upgrade. youtube it so you understand the process and where the npc is at.
you can also get pvp gear with bloody tokens which is alright otherwise you can just farm the storms for more gear if you want.
More or less, yes, although many people just go right to heroics when they hit 70, and then to M0 as soon as they can get groups for it.
As a fresh 70 you can round things out with gear from world quests (the new set on Tuesday will have rewards that scale up for your item level then, so will probably still be upgrades for you), trials (there are two of them), the gear from running the hunts and the Citadel siege (the first time each week) and so on, but really you can also just do it in the dungeon route with no real problems.
thank you guys, you have helped me a lot thank you 
i’ll get kicked for bad dps? or should i just go for it?
You shouldn’t see much of that in heroics. The quick kick crowd is mostly now pushing keys in M+. So, yeah, I would just go for it, although if you’re worried about your DPS just validate what you’re doing against icy veins or something like that. You’re likely fine – again, heroics don’t have the wonky scaling that normals do, which is why you were seeing level 62s out-DPS you.
thank you
Im pretty sure I did but now I will double check thank you
Thank you
Wait. If somebody is an actual new player, they can’t get “back into” a game they’ve never played before.