I'm bored already

Yeah, I can’t wait to dive into crafting. Professions have never been my thing but now that they’ve got a lot of depth to them? OOOOH they look fun!

That’s not what I said at all, but ok :+1:

You’re still talking.

FFXIV, there’s actually a very hard stop for gear generally, much less grindy overall.
GW2, once you get your set, you’re done unless you change specs.
ESO once you get your set you’re done.

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This 100% and the best sets can even be crafted.

Or you could not post your thought and get upset when there’s a differing opinion. You spend so much time replying and trying to defend what you think other players should do as well. At this point I’ll mute the threat and put you on ignore. Maybe we’ll do keys together at some point.

With logic like that you should apply to be a community council. Since one of them has been throwing hissy fits about world quest. They might have a spot open.

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I never said it would be obsolete, i’m saying I can earn an equivalent ring which is true.

And all 3 MMOs are dead, bar FF14 that only becomes alive every new xpac and dies again.

You need infinite grinds or no one will log in daily to play your game.

I’d gladly take a leadership role if offered, but I won’t demean myself and apply. I am too good for that.

Lol ok buddy

Dead? All three have a very healthy population.
Think you need to redefine your terms there kid.

As for infinite grinds, infinite grinds does not make an mmo

Lmao ESO does NOT have a healthy population and neither does GW2, I forgot those games even existed.

New world has more players than both of those games.

And FF14 has far less players than WoW.

Ahh that about sums it up then.
You’re one of those who just talks without understanding facts.

No point bothering.

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Ok go fetch me player counts for all those games if you’re so confident they aren’t dead.

I already told you to redefine your terms.
All three of those games have regular expansions, DLC and events, people are logging on to play all the time.

Your definition of dead, is non-existent.

Well I’m sorry to say but the popular metric for dead or alive is player count, LoTRO online with its 300 players still pushes updates but it’s an objectively dead game.

Heavily inflated by people running multiple characters. I AM KRUMTOILET!!!

Total population is not a good metric to measure the health of an MMO with.

There are plenty of people in FFXIV.

Today, as a DPS, I Q’d up for four dungeons. The worst Q time was 12 minutes. The one dungeon I got in FIVE minutes as a DPS.

I could never do that in WoW as a DPS, except for back during the height of Pandaria.

EDIT: Yesterday, believe it or not, I got an Expert Roulette Queue as DPS… in 2 seconds after I clicked the button. It shocked the crap out of me.

EDIT2: Keep in mind that in FFXIV, it’s 1 tank 1 healer and TWO DPS, not 3. So you need MORE tanks and heals per-DPS in the queue.

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Actually the metric for whether it’s dead or not is company investment in expansions and DLC. Dead games are those on life support with minimal updates, no expansions or DLCs at all, think LOTRO, DCUO, etc.

GW2 just had an expansions launch, ESO has been pushing expansions and DLC regularly, FFXIV just had one of if not the largest MMO expansion ever with Endwalker.

None of those are dead.

By your logic, EVE would be a dead MMO even though it has a consistent player base and sees regular updates and new content.

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The WQ aren’t going anywhere. They just appear every three days instead of one. Plus invasions come out next week that will allow you to up your gear even more. You’ll survive.

Yeah, but with WQs coming out daily, you’d still have to wait 5, 6, 7+ days to see any certain slot (especially the most important one, you know, the weapon?) somewhere in all of those WQs.

What will it be now? 15-21 days if they come out every 3 days?