Illuminated Sigils

This is one of the most imbalanced talent implementations, for any spec, I have ever witnessed in my two decades of playing wow…

Whoever at blizzard thought this talent was appropriate, really needs to take a long break from class balance. This talent needs to be reverted or heavily nerfed post-haste, especially before the war within begins…

Where are all the vdh players who are calling on blizzard to revert this? Haven’t heard a peep from hardly any of you… I realize shame is in short supply these days, but I never have seen such complete and utter silence from a specialization community. Truly shameful.

What is going on here?

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Where were you when Veng was an unplayable paper tank for the past 4 xpacs tbh

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? Even if I were to respond to your question, am I to understand you disagree with my post and support this situation? Please remain on topic going forward.

  1. every vdh main and their mother already gave the feedback that this talent was extremely overloaded, theres nothing else to say.

  2. who cares its fated, vdh can stand to be meta once every 5 years or whatever. you dont need meta for the key level your doing now or in the past

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? The talent remains unchanged in the war within alpha and when I check the alpha forums for feedback it is empty with zero mention of this situation. Did you read the part where I said it is not simply ‘extremely overloaded’ but is in fact the most imbalanced talent in the game and in the top 10 instances of imbalanced implementations in the 20 year history of wow?

I ask again, what is going on here? Where are the leaders of the vdh community and why is this feedback not being drilled into the feedback threads even harder?

the alpha feedback forum is for people who have alpha, jedith does not play vengeance nor should care about the issues of vengeance demon hunters. especially when the focus is on the hero trees that came out

we already told the dev directly there is nothing else to be said or done. people also qq about it in every social media as well, also there is no “leaders of the vdh community” just players playing the game and making guides or streaming and btw those players also mentioned how broken this ability is.

its fated, who cares

Let vengeance be good for once, it won’t affect your ability to clear 10s 15 weeks into the season

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What about this situation not continuing into the war within do you individuals not understand? I could care less about dragonflight season 4. The lack of consistent feedback to blizzard from literally any vdh player to call for a reversion or nerf is just gross to witness. Every response to any feedback thread should note how this talent needs to be nerfed in the war within, yet I see nothing.

if your worried about tww then please note that its only the second week of alpha and there is a ton of more class changes coming. there is tons of feedback from veng mains going towards the dev about illum sigils, just because were not qq’ing constantly in the forums about it doesnt mean no feedback is being given.

im not gonna talk about illum sigils when theres more degen and fun things to talk about with felscarred. again if your worried about next expansion alpha showing no class changes then your worrying for no reason because theres only like 20% of the proposed class changes in alpha at this moment.

This sounds like there is no criterion when inviting people or that they give more importance to the Discord communities than to their own forums, either of the two is wrong XD

alpha has always been a select service given to content creators or noteable people within the community in general. its not “give more importance to discord communities” thats a extremely dent headed take born from some misplace hatred towards community discords.

theres alot of people who got alpha who are part of no class cord community, like some people in the twitter rp community or casual communities.

Sure, well, you can tell me where their feedback is them no? because it doesn’t seem like it is in the forum. Which is where it’s supposed to be.

There were several threads in the PTR forums on the subject, OP, including VDH players admitting it is way imbalanced. Streamers have also talked about it as well. Max, Dratnos, and Dorki spent a solid amount of time discussing it on their most recent podcast.

Rest assured, this feedback has been given. Aim your discontent at the devs, not the community.

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Oh! No, my discontent is not with the community (at least not primarily), it is with the way Blizzard handles it, personally I don’t see the point in the forums if Blizzard doesn’t use them to gather information, and it often seems that Blizzard has given up on working with its own forum and has moved its people to other channels created by the community in which not everyone participates.

The Blizzard forum should say the community center but it doesn’t. That’s my point, and if it seems like I’m ranting against the community I’m doing it the same way I’m ranting against them about the addons, but at the end of the day the disaster of the addons and the forums is Blizzard’s fault.

Personally I think Blizzard has given up on their forum and that bothers me because now instead of looking at the forums I have to start looking for loose communities.

I was responding to the original poster. :smiley:

:man_facepalming: me bad :sweat_smile:

when blizzard learns to moderate their own platform better for conversation and feedback giving then you’ll find more peopole giving feedback here. until then, no one in their right mind would post or converse here if its not to dispell misinfo every now and then or to meme/troll.

im sorry but unfort blizzard let their own forums become a very unwelcoming place for any type of feedback

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I’ve been giving this feedback since the talent was first announced. All you are doing here is being deliberately provocactive over something we don’t control.

Illuminated sigils is fine. DIF needs a buff. Cry about it.