Why thank you! I appreciate the compliment. However, high-demand is something I can assure you I have never been in.
Still, you make a good point. It’s a wild coincidence that this thread popped up in the midst of a time when I’ve personally been learning more about the SLP through my own reading and research. That perception you mention resonates and feels like an easy one to find oneself adopting. Such a thing is evident in the replies we’ve seen here expressing the fear of being cancelled. At the end of the day though, I suppose it really does seem like a bigger deal than it is. Many of us were making our ways just fine before learning of the project, and we’re fully able to continue doing so afterwards as well.
This is what I meant by bad actors. It’s not limited to any certain genre in roleplay but rather about the control that can be exerted over others.
Roleplaying is supposed to be another fun way to work together in this game. But some have consistently proven through their actions time and time again that they are motivated by their personal desire, not character, to manipulate.
I would simply want the takeaway from this thread to be: projects can be fun and rewarding but do your homework. Try to have confidence in yourself. We are all nerds in a RPG including those mean girls and their clique. No one else dictates your fun or your ability to find enjoyment in the game.
I’m gonna be honest with you buddy: a group whose sole intent is to rp power positions (nobles)? Sour attitudes should be expected from the start as that sort of rp will always attract power-hungry individuals from the get-go.
But also, consider this - people who carry a “you’re not my dad” chip on their shoulder towards real or pretend authority figures that they drag into RP as a means to express their resentment, and punish people OOC who have even opt-in consent-based imaginary authority, tend to also have corrupt motives for seeking out that kind of RP and cause just as much of a headache.
I just wanted to say that, through all my alts and all my shennanigans, Jean luxford has been a complete trooper through all of them, and i have always had a fun experience with her.
god, those are just as bad as the guard guilds. Least with the GG’s you know they are coming from a place of having things not be so ‘at our own throats’, but when you have ‘all the rp only happening in stormwind’ with the fair and few between of some guilds taking it upon themselves to be out in the open world, it gets hard for alot of guileless shmucks or small timers getting anything good. So now your stuck with a bunch of no-body nobles doing there rendition of ‘Westfall story’ and sending folks to cancel-town if you so much as question it. (I prefer to call ‘canceling’ as ‘Serbia’ but im old fashioned like that.)
Kind of hard to say what the solution is, some people like orderly rp, some people like chaos. but we can definitely bind ourselves to ‘crappy people doing crappy things to other people’. Personally im not to scared of them, the hell they going to do to me? say ‘I ordered a pineapple pizza’? pth.
I dislike it because I find the concept quite silly. There is nothing more off-putting to people than being expected to join a sub-community (of the already-niche roleplay community) and to abide by their own headcanon.
I do not want to associate with this headcanon in any way, shape, or form; more importantly, these sub-communities are no more special than any other clique, and it’s silly to grant them some sort of IC “authority” just because they want to pretend to be nobles.
Acting like they’re some spooky authority who can “cancel” us or whatever is part of the problem. They have no power. Just ignore them.
Then again, I’m also just generally biased against these sorts of things because of my time as a GM in SWTOR, where members of a “Galaxy on Fire” campaign (a sort of server-wide RP project) tried to bully me into adopting their system, which was… weird.
I wouldn’t call Conquest loosely related to the Law Project. It’s entirely separate save for the owner of both Discords being the same. The Conquest discord has some projects it endorses, but it’s an entirely different leadership team and premise. Of the Dungeon Masters who helped fill out the event, I think like 2 of them are also apart of the Law Project in some IC capacity.
That being said. . .
If someone hates the Law Project - it’s usually for a pretty fair reason, and justified. I’ve seen it devolve into a kangaroo court a few times based on brewing conflicts that stirred in the background when people want to one-up a rival or wanting to seem oocly “politically favorable”.
It’s goofy stuff like that which usually scares people off, or the stories of unfair treatment since moderation in roleplay project communities becomes very subjective, very fast. People are pretty fallible.
I’d say if you want to see what it’s like, or see if there’s something wrong with it inherently, just check it out. Outside of the occasional dramatics, it does seem like there’s a devoted group who enjoys the insight and intrigue in political roleplay. If you’re not interested in involvement with them, don’t let them get in your way and speak up if they do (there’s plenty of people who will signal boost if someone has an issue with the SLP, promise).
But if you are interested, it’s definitely a different niche to explore; and you’ll never really know how you feel about it until you try.
I’ll let everyone know if I get kicked out of the Discord for speaking my mind. I doubt it’ll happen though.
I think the funniest thing about all of this is the level of extent a lot of these dudes will go to in order to OOCly cancel their IC political rival just to “win” the roleplay. Like, I think that’s the funniest thing in the world, because all I can think of is that meme of Coraline checking on her dad at the computer.
“Are ya winning, dad?” She asks.
Dad sits, unhealthy slouched forward in poor posture with tired and forlorned eyes glued to the illumination of his computer monitor. His skeletal fingers reach up, delicately typing the end of his paragraph before sending it over the Discord. Everyone agrees with Dad. Months of having his “spies” sleeping in the SLP discord and [X] Guild’s discord have paid off, his tactical brilliance reflected in a smarmy grin on his face. Yes, yes he had grown estranged from his Wife during this time, but it was worth it; now Dad would wield the power on the server and his rival [x] was cancelled, blacklisted, and no longer welcome in the community. Now only Dad’s laws would pass. Dad turns his pale and sunless face to his daughter and says to her…
“Yes, I’ve won the roleplay.”
His daughter had already left, leaving to play with her friends outside instead. Dad sat in his dark computer room and then proceeded to ERP with his RP GF for two hours.
It’s so silly. Like, winning the roleplay. It’s absolutely so dumb.
