If the arbiter can just be ignored by anyone then the system is flat out bs
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and how is ANY of that appreciably worse than what kelâthuzad or garrosh ever did? garrosh wound up in revendreth, kelâthuzad in maldraxxus, so why did she wind up in the maw when she hadnât actually done anything (at the point of her suicide) that was any worse than what those two did?
you canât even say that its because she didnât feel remorse for it, because garrosh never believed he was doing anything wrong either.
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No it isnât, thatâs why Kyrian Valkâyre are stripped of their past identities and memories, to prevent such a thing, Uther and Denathrius being the exception⌠the systemâŚwhen followedâŚworks. No system is infallible.
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Read through the rest of the thread because actions alone are not enough for them to be thrown into the maw. Personal it is taken into account Kael and garrosh are both in there because they are capable of being redeemed.
Sylvanas is sent to the maw because she has nothing redeemable about her. The forsaken and the horde were tools and she was willing to cross any line to get what she wanted. The difference between her and garrosh is that garrosh thought he was doing what was right or natural. Sylvanas knows what she was doing is wrong and still does it.
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Who said Garrosh and Kaelâthas was the bar for who goes to the Maw? Thatâs some broken logic there judging one by anotherâs actions. Thatâs like Sylvanas saying well I only murdered 10 innocent people, not 100 like Arthas. Yet the rule may be only killing one innocent person.
in that case garrosh and kaelâthas would be in the maw, if the rule is 1 innocent person, they both killed far more than 1 innocent, and yet they are not in the maw.
Yet both of her sisters managed to do it.
Baseball sliding into Frostmourne earned her that Darwin Award.
Completely destroying Lordaeron as a Human city in the process.
She knew about the plague. She knew what Varimathras was going to do with the plague, and she let him do it.
In a way, it was her inaction that lead her right into the arms of the Jailer, unwittingly or not, the moment she brought Varimathras into the fold.
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We donât actually know why people go there yet. I have a feeling that the Jailor may not be as bad as people think he is. I think the possibly the Jailor is a âFight against destinyâ person, and that the First Ones have ordered the cosmos and predestined souls. So the Jailor may be trying to break those chains.
I also donât think the Jailor now is who the Jailor was before he was cast down. I think he and the Arbiter were one person before, and perhaps he did not like where he was being forced to put people. Perhaps he rebelled and decided to send the souls somewhere else and for that he was cast down and split in to two entities.
They all deserved it for their treatment of elves. Even his men thought they were weird and hated them.
Where did it show his men hated elves? The only clip in wc3 has the footmen call then traitors and finds them creepy.
Yes, and that shows hatred. Their treatment was terrible. And none of these men that were just trying to survive stepped into help.
Thatâs because they were told the elves were traitors
Then they were too dumb to think for themselves.
Because they didnât question their orders?
And thatâs a major flaw in their personalities that helped cause the Belves to be treated terribly. So they were still complicit.
Blizz wrote any and all plot holes. Their writing has made her the big bad and I personally canât wait to be done with her.
The Jailer and Syl deserve each other. Iâm sure theyâll betray one another for the rest of time.
No, because the âmaybeâ comment happened after Alexâs flub.
Right and if they didnât completely completely deny what Alex said it means that there is truth to his statement.
No they werenât. For one the soldiers with garithos saw Kael and the naga after they had a meeting. Kael disobeyed an order and according to garithos was conspiring with the nags.
They werenât told to execute the elves because garithos hated the elves, it was execute them for treason. The motives behind the action were not shared between the leader and the soldiers.
Thatâs not how things work. The fact that they specifically said âwe are not confirming what he saidâ speaks volumes.
Kael disobeyed an order because that was the only way his people were gonna survive. Garithos and his men set them up for death.
They deserved their death. Just like Sylvanas now deserves herâs for what she did to the Nelves and wanting to even kill off Belves and use them in her undead army. Plus raise their regent lord. And every other despicable thing.
She was not in the wrong at getting back at Garithos. He was a bigot. So were his men. They participated in hatred that could have lead to further genocide. And they were completely ok with that. Ignorance is not an excuse. Itâs what typically breeds hate.