If You're 2700+ IO and You're Listing 13s You Deserve to Deplete / Fail

Wasting my time, gold and consumables because of your ego is bad.
Being a boon for a key and having an ego is fine.
OP doesn’t seem to have an ego though, he just hurt your feelings with strongly crafted words I guess.

Thank you.

Ok.

The guy doesn’t even run keys that high. He’s posting on an alt because he has things to hide. He isn’t anywhere near 12-13 key range. Also just looking at the language and what was typed I think chantilus is his second account he’s posting on. The guy has serious issues.

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He didn’t say 2500 io. He said upwards for 2700.

Still waiting for someone to explain how a 12 is more mechanically complex than a 11, especially, when the OP noted, some 13s are easier than others.

And like, there are 3 keys seen as “free” anyway. It’s like not all keys are equal.

You’re extremely far off the mark.

I believe community managers can see our full accounts? I wouldn’t be saying what I’m saying without some degree of confidence in my own ability.

I’ve timed every +12 keystone multiple times and I’m progging and timing +13 keystones.

This is not a topic that I’m going to entertain. I’m going to disengage from discussions about my pedigree and continue speaking about the original posts topic.

One last point, I’m not that person that you mentioned.

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Then get your main and prove it.

I’ve just said that I’m done discussing personal pedigree.

If I’m a liar and basing the premise of my original post around a misrepresentation of my own in game accomplishments then I’m certain that it won’t bode well for me.

That isn’t the case - let’s move on. Regulate the key bandits.

Still haven’t responded how a 12 is more mechanically complex than an 11.

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Make your own key and then you can regulate. Also, you need to level up from 70, dragonflight keys are outdated.

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Who is the bigger troll? The person that lists their own +13 key they earned by timing a 12 or 11 because there is no other way for them to get that key. Or the schmuck that knowingly joins this key then runs to the forums to cry about it?

They are both mad they can’t get invited to 13 keys, so they want you to know you shouldn’t do them either.

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I must’ve missed that question in the sea of other replies.

No one ever made the claim that a +12 keystone is more MECHANICALLY complex than an 11 keystone.

A +12 keystone removes the Xalatath buff affix while adding another layer of the oppressive damage / health modifier to the key.

The added complexity comes from creating new methods of timing the dungeon due to substantially higher scaling. You simply cannot tackle a +11 GB like you would a +12 or higher. Odds are you’ll fail.

There are countless people listing keys they have no business listing that they got carried through a 2 chested Mists for. You’re trolling by pretending that’s not real life.

Given how some DPS do 60% less damage than others, pushing buttons better is sufficient.

And? Don’t join those keys? Again who is the bigger troll?

2500 or 2700 io is irrelevant. You completely missed the point.

Paris has every option to invite/not invite or leave if someone he deems to low of IO joins the group.

Maybe stop nitpicking 2500 or 2700 IO and actually refute the point.

I mean…

I guess? I don’t think I follow? Are you saying if people played their class better then even with the modifiers it wouldn’t be as difficult?

If yes, I agree.

While I don’t disagree with you as a lot of highend players and weaker players both stop at tens. I don’t really get the public service announcement. What harm does posting a 13 do?

It seems like a self correcting problem if they can’t do it.

I mean, I kind of agree. Especially since I often tell myself to stay out of the Elite’s stuff. But no need to be a dick about it.