If You're 2700+ IO and You're Listing 13s You Deserve to Deplete / Fail

[Life-bleeding-hollow]

why mists specifically?

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

Cause it’s seen as the easiest key. But if you exclude mists, and x, y, and z, then the post becomes “don 't do 13s of these four dungeons.”

But like Grim Batol is mechanically easier than Ara-kara, that is seen as easy.

[Critswalkin-cenarius (Critswalkin)]

If you don’t want to potentially (likely) have the outcome he is crying about then don’t join a +13 where the key holder is 2700 IO.

[Xyrá-sargeras]

You will never surpass your limits if you keep running content you know you can do. I regularly lift weights and I always do sets above what I can comfortably do, that’s how I keep climbing. What Paris is saying is defeatist, and low confidence, that’s most likely why he’s crying because he can’t reach 3k or level his character up to 80.

[Life-bleeding-hollow]

@Fauxstrasza-stormrage

Cause it’s seen as the easiest key.

it’s the fastest
dawn is the easiest
i’d argue grim batol is easier, honestly, but that might be because i’ve farmed for skardyn on like 3 toons and probably could do it blindfolded at this point so i’m a bit biased

[Life-bleeding-hollow]

he’s hit 3k+ in multiple seasons and on multiple characters
lol

[Paris-malfurion]

@Fauxstrasza-stormrage

To what does timing other 12s help if someone wants to time a 13 mists, let’s say?

They gain no stats, no more knowledge on how to better align cooldowns. No more practice on mists. (Seen as the easiest key.)

The only thing that really changes is the probability of getting invited in the group finder.

We must be playing different games. You absolutely have to cycle your cooldowns differently and pull things differently in +12 keystones and higher.

That’s how oppressive the modifiers become. It forces you to create new dungeon strategies and tackle different packs / bosses differently.

I think we might fundamentally disagree on the definition of complexity as it relates to dungeon scaling?

[Zelebra-zuljin]

OP: Don’t post your 13 keys if you arent above 2900 IO.

Player: how am i supposed to gain rank then?

op: Not my problem.

Pretty much summs up this mentality.

[Xyrá-sargeras]

Congrats, I’ve been over 3k multiple seasons too, but do you see me making posts acting like a crying baby?

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

@Paris-malfurion

We must be playing different games. You absolutely have to cycle your cooldowns differently and pull things differently in +12 keystones and higher.

You do need to do more DPS in a 13 than an 12, but that experience won’t be gotten by timing 12s of other keys.

And if you time 12s of the same key, you get +0 to score.

[Pyri-shadowsong]

@Akapally-barthilas

According to your logic I should not have been able to double time my M10 at 1200 IO either, but yet here we are.

it’s actually kind of crazy that some people put SO much stock in io score that they think it is a foolproof assessment of your ability as a player.

OP and similar folks: rio score measures your experience, not your ability. it’s really not complicated.

[Xyrá-sargeras]

People are sad these days. It’s no wonder people are all sad and have no hope. They never ever try and they just put others down. It’s sad.

[Paris-malfurion]

@Zelebra-zuljin

OP: Don’t post your 13 keys if you arent above 2900 IO.

Correct.

@Zelebra-zuljin

Player: how am i supposed to gain rank then?

op: Not my problem.

Also correct.

@Zelebra-zuljin

Pretty much summs up this mentality.

Conclusion: Grind. It’s a numbers game.

[Life-bleeding-hollow]

thanks for sharing, happy for you or whatever
i’m not the one taking worthless jabs about a forum avatar over actually looking at the guy’s experience in question
he’s not whining
he’s saying it’s annoying that unqualified people are constantly listing doa keys with their current experience

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

Someone who has timed a 12 of the previous key, has all the visible experience they’re going to get.

And that’s far below 2900 io.

[Xyrá-sargeras]

You must be fun to bring to parties.

[Zelebra-zuljin]

Nothing says narcissism like telling other players you don’t find them worthy of content they are trying to do.

[Paris-malfurion]

I love parties.

How’d you know?

[Akston-area-52]

@Life-bleeding-hollow

he’s saying it’s annoying that unqualified people are constantly listing doa keys with their current experience

Is the annoyance that there are keys that exist he wont apply for?

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

He can filter those groups out too.