You should know that people raiding Mythic and Heroic are using specific WA scripts and addons to make mechanics doable.
The devs that design the raids don’t seem to be WoW players. Or they at least take addons and external scripts as “inherent part of the default game”. I don’t think that this is a healthy path to take.
People are going to use Add-Ons no matter what. It’s best to just throw in the towel and design around it than try to get rid of it. I don’t see what’s unhealthy about this approach.
Game already revolves around the same old players that pushed tryhardism and elitism to the limit. Overcomplexity contributes to player burnout and lack of new players willing to take risks. New players feel shattered and overwhelmed having to download a new addon/script for each bossfight/new content.
I have had dbm for years. It’s really not that useful anymore. A specific weak aura tho, they can be really useful
Convoluted? Do you have any examples of which ones you’re finding so complex? Which fights?
Heroic does not require WA’s. And, unless you’re doing mythic, why do you care what tools they use to down bosses? That’s a whole different level of gameplay than you or I do. So, why care?
Since you explicitly mention Heroic and Mythic, I’m going to assume you’re talking about normal difficulty. There is nothing on normal that requires any WeakAura in order to accomplish (nor is it made much easier with them). None of it is hard if you know your class and have at least a little experience with what raids have thrown out in the past.
This.
The only mechanic could be “move one step left every 30 seconds” and there would be an addon that flashes a giant arrow and screams “MOVE YOU SILLY WILLY!”
Addons will always be a thing. No matter how hard or easy the mechanics are.
Oh it’s probably that thing where not every player enjoys using 400 add-ons to play a game lol.
right they’re always going to use them but for the game maker to take the add-ons into account when they’re creating content is defeating the purpose of having the freaking add-on for one. And then for those of us who don’t want to use all the add-ons it just makes things so much worse that we don’t even want to play the content.
I don’t use add-ons to tell me when to jump hop skip or flip lol. but if I have to use that kind of an add-on in order to play the content I just won’t play it at all. So in in effect they’ve just run players out of that content
I’ve been having a blast raiding this expansion. I don’t see anything “convoluted” about the mechanics.
Perhaps it’s just that players like to complain about everything when they don’t get handed instant success?
yes. welcome to the 21st century.
On the plus side, all those weakauras and stuff are 100% free and available on wago.io
I don’t need addons to handle most of the mechanics.
You’re taking “some people use addons on this content” to mean “this content is impossible without addons” when really it means “some people will use addons on any content”.
Yep.
10/10 Normal is not hard, at all.
I’m currently 5/10 Heroic, there are some rough patches in those bosses (getting the shades figured out in Altimor is key) but also not so bad once your raid group figures it out.
I so far haven’t found CN to be any more or less mechanics intensive than any previous raid.
Can’t say anything about Mythic, but I don’t play Mythic or care to.
I just dont think blizzard should even look at addons being used when making content. This topic has come up in here before.
This crap causes an escalation…which is where I believe we’re at now.
Idiotic circus side show freak mechanics everywhere that make this game feel like a 1990s Nintendo game instead of an RPGMMO.
Dodge circles, stay close to tether partner, stack, kill adds, take the red marker out. What’s convoluted exactly? You have to stand in a circle instead on 3 fights and maybe click a valve on one if its assigned to you.
I don’t think you know what convoluted is. Here’s a diagram for how people handled mechanic in FFXIV that was an instant wipe on failure. People pugged this and addons are technically banned there btw.
https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/accimg2/60/a3/60a3d8f5a5ba53e1612d4fa7ce6be6e144d039d3.jpgGoing to be 100% honest with you here, I’ve attempted most of the bosses in Nathria, and I managed to get by fine (as a dps***) with no add-ons. I only just recently installed DBM because I wanted to know the CD of Volatile Eruption on Hungering Devourer.
It took like 5 seconds.
Search Engine -> Look up “DBM” -> Download -> Extract file into Add-On folder. -> Done 
We’re almost done with heroic CN and none of us use specific scripts to beat the bosses. Oh wait your name is alex jones. nvm
Good grief. Reminds me of the Twins fight in SWTOR Gods from the Machine… I have no idea how anyone understands that fight, let alone survives it. 
The expectation that your going to use external add-ons has been baked into the game for 15+ years now
It’s part of what allows blizzard to design such intricate mechanics.
Either get on board or go play ffxiv where they bake everything you need into the game.