If you ninjaloot...

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4 MONTHS LATER
:roll_eyes:

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yeah, it is going to magically change

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You have had a productive 19 minutes, good sir.

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if they piss off the healers and tanks they will seal their own fate

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Maybe on your server. They worked on mine.

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Argent Dawn had the most characters in Vanilla, and was a revolving door of players who came to the server. You might ask anyone who is still around AD from back then about those days. Tuesday was “Blackrock Down” trade spam, reports about ninja-looters or profession thieves, etc. etc. etc.

Blacklists there did not work. While a handful of people might pay attention, there was a much larger community who either didn’t care about your drama, or simply couldn’t remember everyone who did something awful. There were only 50 ignore slots, etc.

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I was on Scarlet Crusade in Vanilla and later The Scryers when BC came out. I took the free server xfer they offered back then. Funnily enough AD is linked to the scryers now. Thats why this toon is on AD. I was not on AD in vanilla though.

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Yeah, I was on AD in Vanilla, and had a couple alts on a few other realms. And my experience there is the reason why a lot of the suggestions and expectations of Classic community might not hold up.

Classic players will say that the closed off community will negate tourism, while I just point at Argent Dawn, because that was where all the tourists went. They didn’t go to anyone else’s realm, they came to mine.

Classic players talk about how personal responsibility and accountability is better in Vanilla, while I point at Argent Dawn and say more people are apt to “see for themselves” and think that you are trying to stir the pot/cause drama. How often have I had to complain to a guildmaster of a troll or thief, only to be brushed off and told to mind my own business?

There’s a threshold at which a blacklist works - a fixed pool of players, and not one that can move around. Memory only holds for so long, before people forget or they fade from a conscious effort to protect themselves.

On average, a busy server had 3,000 players online at the same time, but the average number of unique characters level 10 or over was approximately 20,000 per month. And Argent Dawn was pushing 30,000 characters.

Just try and remember the names of all the characters you’ve ever encountered, and then try to remember all the ones with a ‘reputation’. You might remember a handful of the more egregious ones.

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I wasn’t saying your examples weren’t real. Just that I didn’t share those experiences because it was different on my server. I was in a raiding guild on my server so maybe ninjas had more power with the more casual players. Ninjas were known among the high end raiders though, at least on my server.

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On Ysera, ninjas faced social sanction. When the AQ gate was ninja’d by Axion, the players involved got hounded off server.

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It won’t be on the forums (or at least it shouldn’t be). In will be on player/guild kept lists, which can be shared with other guilds or players. If player “X” asks to join a group, you check the list, and obviously if they have developed a rep to make the list, you may not want to group with them.

“Sorry Johnny, we don’t want to play with you”.

That’s not harassment, that’s common sense.

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Server Discords can’t be policed by Blizzard.

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As far as remembering names goes, I can’t imagine it being too long before someone makes an addon to remember all the ninjas for them, complete with some sound effect alerting them of it happening. Addons do far more complex things on a constant basis nowadays.

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It’s easy: /blist

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and “loot council” is synonymous with “organized ninja looters”

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I’ve had a great interaction with Loot Council. I was a healer and then tended to gravitate gear toward me to allow our runs to go smoother. Also I was a shaman at the time and we didn’t have another shaman or many mail users. So I got all the gear lol.

But normally they gear up tanks and healers first to allow for more mistakes. Least the ones I’ve been in.

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It would be nice to be on a server that is filled with people who care about ninjaing.

But it would suck to be accused for ninjaing or it would suck to be on a server that doesn’t care.

If there are no cross realms then servers may even develop their own culture.