It’s blizzards game and if they feel that something tolerated but not supported is hampered by a change, then it is what it is. I believe the “tolerated but not supported” is exactly the gameplay choice affected, that many are melting down about.
Blizzard should look at the larger picture rather than fringe groups who are borderline exploitative and harmful to the game.
How exactly is this change making it more accessible?
I’ve seen you use the term “fringe groups” several times in regards to the recent instance cap change and you are 100% wrong, it’s not fringe groups. All of the instance “exploits” that brought about this change were very common 15 years ago just like they are today.
The biggest change from Vanilla and Classic? Bots.
People who use bots aren’t a fringe group, they are cheaters. Have any of the recent changes stopped people from botting? Nope. Black lotus botting is back in full swing, instance botting is still happening. None of the recent changes did anything except have a negative impact legitimate players.
Except it isn’t- they’ve never said aoe pulls are an exploit, and if it’s so good why don’t you do it yourself?
It’s amazing how many of you people claim it’s broken and is too easy of gold, yet none of you do it.
Because you can’t- it’s not nearly as easy as it looks, so you do the same thing everyone does when there’s something they personally can’t do but others can, they train until they can do it thems- oh, sorry, my bad- no, they complain until someone comes in to make it so nobody can do it because that keeps better players on your level.
There are exploits- like changing game files so you can fly around or tunnels through the ground. But the aoe farms are using abilities Blizz put in the game and pathing Blizz created- and unless they say that is an exploit, any of you saying its an exploit are doing so without any proof.
It’s funny that now legitimately farming gold is considered an exploit if you make too much. ‘stop, you are too good and efficient at doing something, that is not fair to people that suck’.
Hey look, another manifesto
It’s not the number of people in a raid that makes it hardcore but the difficulty. Neither the large or the small raids are very difficult but I prefer the smaller raids. At any rate I wish the whole game was made harder which is one of the reasons I liked it when they added heroics in BC.
In wow people are equating time spent with hard core game play. You’re doing easy things like farming low level dungeons to make something easy, raids, even easier. In most games that’s not considered hard core.
Many games have a sliding scale you can move to set the game’s difficulty. What is more hardcore? Sliding the scale to the easiest setting and playing 12 hours a day or slide the scale to the hardest setting and playing 6 hours a day?
I’ve always considered myself to be a casual player but I’m more hardcore than most of you. I never boost, I always try to do the dungeons as soon as I can get into them, I’m always trying to convince groups to do dungeons when they’re low for them instead of waiting until we’re so high they’re easy, If we can’t get 5 people I always suggest we try it with 4, If we can’t find a tank I suggest we try it with a hunter or shaman tank. I try to do things that make the game harder. You do easy things to make an easy game even easier.
If I wanted to raid in classic I’d be trying to talk the guild into trying it with 30 or less people. It’s too easy with 40
Oh my oh my. This isnt Vanilla my man. The ease of access to information and the wealth of information available makes me laugh pretty hard at this.
In Vanilla sure I can easily understand some skilled mages knowing the secret sauce to these runs and being renowned for their skill.
You wanna know what they do today. They go on Youtube, type in MARA EXP farm 190 mob pull, and pull up a video that goes over everything from gear, to routes, to when to use every single blink and frost nova.
Your not hiring a skilled mage, your hiring a mage that watched a youtube video a few times. Sorry but anybody can do these pulls, just because everybody doesnt want to does not mean its because its difficult.
LOL somebody praising mage skill this way is pretty funny though. I guess being a master at classic wow is just that easy these days.
25 and 10 mans are definitely harder all things being equal because they require individual accountability. If a handful of people are slacking or not carrying their weight in a 40 man, you probably wouldnt even notice without logs. In a 10 man, you’ll know almost instantly…
Show me your skill then, prove you can do it. I’ll wait- I assume forever because despite mocking how easy it is, it’s still something way too hard for you to do.
but the sign said all you can eat… 
They wouldn’t hunger strike. They’d just go to a different buffet. Here, that is not a choice. Is there a realm without the instance cap on it? No. When Blizzard slams moronic changes on here, you’re just forced to swallow it because they have a monopoly. Food places do not.
That said, I doubt anyone is actually going to quit over this; it’s just yet another stupid/pointless change that doesn’t accomplish anything and has no reason to exist. We could be getting things that would actually help the game. They use “nochanges!” as an excuse not to do anything good for the game, but it doesn’t stop em from doing dumb crap at all.
That’s entirely on encounter design and has nothing to do with numbers. 40 people find out really fast who is slacking when living bomb goes off on 20+ people.
Yes you broke the game and devs need to fix it. Doesnt mean you broke tos. More the devs didnt program in ways the mages could try 10 thousands trys to figure out a way to exploit the game. Good you figured a way to break the game. Devs need to fix it before it harms the game like duping gold would do.
You are funny. I watched those same videos…did the same spec…had mostly the same gear…and after 2 weeks of trying and getting killed gave up on trying to learn the routes and how to do it on my mage…
Same as the DM:E Lock solo farm…tried to learn it for 2 weeks kept getting killed.went back to what i knew i could do and don’t care about not being able to do the “easy” (as others claim) gold farm that both classes have.
sorry, not gonna level a mage to help educate stubborn general forum users.
You wanna see how easy it is just go to youtube. If you cant do that than you cant be helped. 
It would only take a few hours to map out every spell and ability used if your struggling that much. I guess some people can do the same thing for 2 weeks and never learn from their mistakes. life must be difficult for you.
It’s effortless to level a mage, and they give apparantly infinite easy gold.
But of course that’s not appealing to you since you’d never be able to do any of it. I say it’s not as easy as it looks, not that it isn’t easy- it’s not overly hard. But, even though it isn’t a difficult task, the majority of players like yourself simply can’t manage that, because that’s the general skill level for WoW players.
Either that or the majority of players don’t want easy, massive amounts of gold- which no doubt is your excuse. Very convincing.
Completely missing obvious mechanics isnt slacking, it’s not paying attention. In a heroic 10 man, even if just one of your healers isnt geared or doesnt know what hes doing… you realize REAL fast
Once again, that’s on encounter design. Healing/Dps checks in smaller groups are very noticeable, sure.
Most buffets are literally all you can eat. They just serve such crappy food that you can’t get your money’s worth.