If you give us bard blizz

Pandaren had Chen Stormstout and the Brewmaster hero to base themselves off of. So even though it was originally an April Fool’s joke, it had a very solid foundation to work off of.

The Bard doesn’t have that.

BTW, that Dragonsworn concept is sweet. I’m definitely down for something like that.

Doubtful. They would fall into the same category as pre-Wrath armor sets for DK’s. Rewriting old content doesn’t seem to be on the top of Blizzards list. Look how long DK’s were rebelling against the LK.

Pandaren exist because Samwise liked to hide panda faces in his art. They took that joke and made a pandaren furbolg as an in-joke (as well as panda faces on Illidan’s glaives). They took that in-joke and made Chen the Brewmaster. And they extrapolated an entire expansion from that, all stemming from a few hidden doodles.

If that can happen, anything is possible. And ETC is an in-game band that you can find and listen to - one of two that exist.

Again, I don’t want Bard. But they’re certainly possible.

And they also had Chen accompany Rexxar on a campaign where they saved Orgrimmar from Admiral Proudmoore. So Chen was a champion of the Horde before WoW even began.

This also exists pre-WoW:
https://quietschisto.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Arthas_rocking.jpg

And that’s a spoof, not something to be considered serious or lore based.

Which was the same as Pandaren. Until Chen made them “real.”

Okay, and Chen made them real back in WC3. Blizzard never made the Bard “real” in the entire history of WC3 or WoW.

You’re not forced to even touch legion with the leveling rework.

You know there has never been a caster dps added to the game. All casters have been accounted for since vanilla. Just putting that out there.

That’s an arbitrary distinction, though.

Pandaren were a dumb Easter egg. Now they have a race, class, continent and expansion based on them.

Butt rock has been a dumb Easter egg since WarCraft II’s disco code. They now have multiple representative NPCs and organizations in-game. They have more than enough to work with, if they so choose.

they don’t work
they are not full healer or full DPS, as described they are support
so for every situation/encounter blizzard would have to further burden their workload to make a separate set of numbers based on whether there was a support class.
Lets not make it more complex than it already is to balance classes and encounters.
They tried them in classic it didn’t work out so they made them not support.
What role would you sacrifice in M+ or dungoens?

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I kind of feel like a new support class would conflict with hybrid/utility classes. Kinda of like in the sense the Demon Hunters are better Monks.

Shaman’s might suddenly have to share Blood Lust effects with another class and stuff like that.

… You do realize that we’ve shared that functionality for quite some time, yes? And everything we didn’t share was gutted.

Everybody, stop mentioning bards. You’re making me angry.

Bards are jacks of all trades: they could shoot you with a bow, or attack you with a sword. And they have some thieving skills for survival and information gathering purposes. Yes, they cast spells, but the spells can be from virtually any source.

Also, all Bards do not HAVE to be support, and they do NOT have to use instruments all the time, though I will give an example for each below:

Arcane Duelist: DPS Melee - Arcane spells for Teleportation attacks and defense, illusions, and general trickery, swords for everything else. Their Mastery could be based on using a wand and a sword simultaneously (traditional fantasy dueling items). Give them Bard Lore as a mastery, preventing spammed attacks against them from being effective.

Voice of the Wild: Support - Think of them as Summoners; they use Nature spells and call spirits to heal, buff and drop DoTs. They use an elemental call or summon as a Charge or Rune; once all are used, they auto buff themselves for combat, healing, or off-tanking, determined by the last summon they expend.

Dirge: DPS Ranged / Controller - the only spec that uses an instrument: a staff modified to play as wooded or stringed instruments. Dirges use two magic schools: arcane for sonics, shadow for spirit conjuration and minor heals. They heal the party through leech damage, and cause AoE bad luck and spirit attacks, by channeling songs.

Start talking Dragonsworn, then. :wink:

Toss a coin to your witcher
Oh valley of plenty.

This class as it is structured in other MMOs doesn’t work in WoW. The closest we had to it was Shaman totems and Paladin Auras, and it was horrible.

Oh, I hope they add a bard so I can go necro some threads about how it will never happen lol.