Horde players suffer because they oftentimes wait in 30+ min queues to face cheating discord premade players who steamroll them in <6 minutes.
Honest Alliance players who don’t want to cheat/exploit the system suffer because many of the fresh games that spawn are held hostage by these premades who will abandon them if they don’t have at least 35 of their own joining, leaving only 5-10 Ally to fend off 40 Horde for the first 5-8 minutes of the game.
Remove AV numbers from the battlemaster window and make it so all players can only join the ‘first available’ BG. This will prevent these cheaters from coordinating over a 3rd party voice app with the intention of exploiting your system.
Also, add a deserter buff to anyone who chooses not to enter a BG when it pops.
im not %100 sure but i think premades are the best thing that could of happened to classic wow. With premades and long que times the horde might switch to alliance and we can get more balanced servers
av was never intended to be viable rep grinding. blizz just decided to put in the version that was only live for 1 month before the honor system was phased out. The reason this version awards so much honor is because blizzard made it so you could purchase all the rank 12-14 gear with honor points and bg marks. it would take like 90k honor and 20 ab marks for a 1hander which is why this much honor coming from the current av makes sense.
What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
It’s because people are reaching, and I mean reaching deep for an excuse to keep this exploit in the game and the responses are usually one of the following…
It will kill av.
Classic is supposed to be broken.
Horde deserve it because of WPVP phase.
None of the explanations make any sense and really do make players feel less intelligent after reading them. The longer blizzard takes to address this the more the community is going to understand that they simply don’t care and will only use subscription money towards expansions and not correcting mistakes (unexpected due to massive population imbalance) in classic. Turning a blind eye is not how you treat your customers so what OP says is very true. It will affect subscriptions, by how much who knows. If enough horde boycott the game then the population imbalance causing only one faction to have premades will fix itself at least.
Dynamics will change when Arathi Basin is released.
40 people queuing at the same time will still work with hidden AV numbers. Especially when AB releases and even less pugs are doing AV. Just accept the fact that your horde and don’t get instant ques.
You are wrong too. This system is completely unnecessary when everyone is on an even playing field regarding their ability to join their own premade. If you choose to pug when you don’t have to you should accept the consequences.
Same as when BWL releases and you choose to pug instead of joining a guild, you aren’t killing Nefarian.
Lol, this is such BS and a horrible analogy. Blizzard designed this version of AV so you CAN’T queue with others in-game. People are circumventing that (not even just on their own server, but xrealm) by using a 3rd party voice app.
If horde are quitting then the queue problem will solve itself, which isn’t the case, the more horde quit the more balanced servers will become, this is actually a big brain move from blizzard
Still, wrong. You’re talking about a feature added in Cataclsym. We’re talking about a feature that was in the Classic beta, and original Vanilla, and for some reason taken out for the launch of Classic BGs. Not the same argument at all. We’re not asking for later expansion features, we’re asking for a stupid change to be reverted.
Also wrong, in the Classic beta all the streamers were queueing up as a group. This was in the beta and it was in original Vanilla too. We should be able to group up as you would in any other part of an MMO.