If you care about the quality of classic servers, act now

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NOW is the time to make your voices heard, express how you feel about the in-game shop. Express how you feel about the character level boost. These classic servers are meant to be an authentic recreation of what we once had. It is meant for people that want to make connections with others during the leveling process. it is meant to keep the world alive.

This is a slippery slope people. First level boost… what comes next? Race change, faction change? These are directly harmful to the quality of classic servers and we need to keep making posts, keep letting Blizzard & Activision know that this is unacceptable.

Madseasonshow’s “The Ballad of the Level Boost” is an excellent video detailing of how the level boost will have a huge amount of game-breaking issues. Please take the time to watch the video and familiarize what the reality of these types of changes Blizzard/Activision want to introduce.

Please continue to make your voice heard. Let’s keep classic great.

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I like the cash shop, its pretty much a unlimited salt dispenser.

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I want wotlk style dungeon finder, PvP gear from vendors bought using honor, professions giving a slight bonus, like how skinning gave crit, but i’d like 2h shamans to be a thing still, and rogues to be able to use axes.

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Classic is not an authentic recreation. I don’t understand why people say it is.

IF it was Authentic, we would of used the release client, and patched it all the way up. We would of used launch talents, and changed them all the way up. Launch items, launch professions, launch everything, and progressed with them the exact way we did when World of Warcraft first launched.

The way we play it now? Is far from how it should have been. Raids were trivialized by class power from their later end spells and talent tuning.

Playing on a 7.3.5 Client, with content frozen in 1.12.1 with phased raid unlocks is not Authentic.

Also, race changes, factions changes, ect. Didn’t ruin the game. There design philosophy of the game did.

The removal of attunements, the gear catch ups, LFR, removal of talents tree’s, simplification of stats and classes, basically the entire dumbing down of a once complex game is what ruined the game.

Wrath of the Lich King was the PEAK of WoW subs, and it offered a lot of cash shop trash, and it also hosted Ulduar, one of the best, IF NOT THE BEST raid tiers ever made, some of the best class design in PvE, great questing, excellent zones and music.

They could strip all the cash shop stuff out of Shadowlands, and it would still be garbage.

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Isn’t literally all of this besides Boost just rumors, AND all of it for TBC Classic not the perma-Classic?

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It’s as authentic as we can get it without going to insane lengths to please a minority of “B-B-B-B-BUT MUH AUTHENTIC” whiners like you.

Nobody wants to play patch 1.1 and go through the patch progression, having things be bugged and broken and hideously unbalanced for MONTHS before receiving the next patch. Nobody wants to sit around and watch other classes get their powerful 1.12 talents while you are still stuck with your crappy old talents.

Raids were trivialized by 15 years of knowledge and experience, not by 1.12 talents, stop being disingenuous

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Don’t put words in my mouth. I never once stated it I wanted it to be like that. For it to be Authentic it should of launched like that, but that doesn’t mean its how I wanted it.

Its anything BUT Authentic, CLOSE to authentic does not equate to authentic. There is no wiggle room around that fact.

Also, the talents play a huge part in it. Take a look at some of the tree’s from earlier on. Am I saying that knowledge wouldn’t of impacted the difficulty of those raids? No. Classic raids like MC and BWL are brain dead easy. However, that doesn’t mean talents had zero impact. Its a combination of a lot of things, but no part is small.

You are also the only one here whining.

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You are stuck on the definition of authentic when in the pretense of this discussion it is used in reference to having a genuine experience while playing older versions of the game.

Having an in-game shop that provides character boost is the first step of what could be a downward spiral. It shows an intention by Blizzard/Activision that they have no intention in remaining true to the word, Classic.

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The fact that these games are progressing down their natural life cycle is already a downward spiral. These servers follow the same path that WoW took to get to its current state its in today.

Literally.

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Oh, thank God someone finally had the courage to broach this topic.

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Really forumgoers are in the mass minority so you’re better off flexing in game than on the forums.

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Okay.

I’m fine with the in-game shop.

I’m fine with a single account boost. (I don’t want to take business away from the mage boosters, after all.)

Anything else?

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As long as they:

  • Don’t boost professions
  • Don’t change the way the game actually plays
  • Don’t use CRZ
  • Don’t provide tokens

I’m cool with whatever. Bring on all the cosmetic things. Bring on race changes, barber shops, etc…

That’s my stance on the matter. I’m not here for nostalgia, I’m here to play a good game that they forgot how to make.

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They forgot how to make it because they started introducing the very things you are saying you are “cool with”. They started finding alternate ways to get more income and stopped working on the authenticity of their game. They started adding boosts, dungeon finders, cross realm, faction changes, transmog, etc., the list goes on and on and on. It is the very reason why retail wow holds no true attention other than people obsessed with spamming mythic dungeons.

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You realize that it’s the same company handling both games right now, right?

But, yeah, just making the game profitable was a real slippery slope.

I was one of the people campaigning for things like xmog, or a barber shop, or new pets to collect. I’m still campaigning for more cosmetics and customization.

I don’t give a crap about how the game looked in 2006, or what limitations it had due to tech, or nostalgia, really.

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It’s not a good video at all… it’s legit copy paste of what asmongold has been saying for years and i disagree with it all.

Give the people that are willing to pay for boosts, a flippin boost.

This game has been on the steady decline for several years now. It’s not about player retention, its about getting new players IN. you know how you do this? by giving them the opportunity to play with their friends that more likely play the game.

sorry but madseason and asmongold are just so far left its really sad. they need to look at everyones situations and not just themselves.

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Clearly you have no idea what the video is even about. It ranges much more than just player retention. There are many more issues.

All you proved was your hatred for Asmongold. Then you just make this weird broad claim that they are both far left, so not only are you bringing your own hatred for their names you are politicizing it lol. Get a grip man.

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I watched both that video and asmongolds reaction. they are just feeding off the negative bs people say to get clicks.

its rubbish tbh

I dont hate asmon? I just disagree with him on this. I just think you aren’t forming your own opinion and you’re just copy pasting their thoughts to get you clicks. thats what i think

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Wow, even more proof you didn’t watch it. Because madseasonshow did not even talk about “negative bs people say to get clicks”. Also to get clicks people use Thumbnails and titles, which neither are there to get you to seem like he is being disingenuous.

Right so in an hour long video of a guy describing all the possible reasons why a boost would be bad for the game, I am not allowed to use that video as a reason to then understand why it is bad for the game. What are you some 50 year old boomer who looks at headline news and forms his own opinion based on that headline? No… I watch/read what is available and base my opinion off that.

Get a grip bro, seriously.

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Is it so hard to believe that people disagree with you and have legitimate reasons for doing so? I like Madseason. Strongly disagree with him in this video. He nominally presents a “fair” analysis but he lets his confirmation bias against boosts run wild for 60 minutes and doesn’t view the matter objectively. I don’t think he did it maliciously, he probably didn’t even realise he was doing it.

Regarding slippery slope, people were saying that legalising same-sex marriage would lead to legalised beastiality. It’s really not a compelling argument.