I really can’t tell if you’re being serious or not.
No, Arthas’ soul was thrown into the Maw by Uther and not judged by the Arbiter. We do not know exactly what his soul is. The only thing we know was the Sylvanas saw it as a crying child. Most likely the same child we saw in Northrend.
They need to stop “redeeming” villains, and making objectively awful characters “grey and misunderstood.”
This has become a media trope that needs to just die. It’s not cool, you’re not being unique, this is the edgy 14 yos dream of what a story should be.
Take Thanos from the MCU, great actor performance, but same problem. In the comics, Thanos is just a jerk, irredeemable, cruel, an psychotic awful person. But in the movies they try to make him this relatable misguided villain.
Just stop. Let villains be villains, please.
If he isn’t redeemed then how can him and Illidan have that picnic they have been planning with the Titans?
Arthas did nothing wrong.
Why not? Everybody is doing it.
And we stop the people from doing it, because they’re the villains and we’re the heroes.
Please explain how this was criminal. Not trying to start a fight, I am genuinely curious. What were his options? We know for a fact that everyone in Stratholme turned into undead. We can also make an educated guess that if he had left them alone they would have rampaged over the country.
I am not saying it wasn’t a terrible thing, I just hear everyone saying that it was evil etc. I am just asking if anyone can tell me what other options he had.
Watch this space.
Arthas and Sylvanas team up to put an end to the jailer.
The jailer is the Shadowlands version of the Lich King. There must always be a Lich King.
Arthas will rule over the Shadowlands and restore order.
In doing so Sylvanas will be restored, no longer the banshee queen.
Watch this space.
There is rarely ever true evil. It’s realistically and usually miss-understandings and clashing points of view combined with too much or too little empathy.
However I agree the pure un-fettered conflict of good and evil is fun because it doesn’t require anyone tempering their power back.
Arthas was the perfect hunk of clay, He had the arrogance and willingness to awful things to maintain his “rightness”.
Arthas only failed because he couldn’t roll blood elf. I wish they hadn’t been implemented as a playable race, but they are way better than humans.
I would love Arthas to be redeemed and returned to Azeroth as a figure for the Horde.
Neither did I but since Arthas is the fallen hero archetype and his story does parallel other classic stories, I think subconsciously most people are tuned in to that, and it shades their perception of him.
He definitely turned down some good advice, especially Jaina’s. Not heeding wisdom is a classic staple of these characters. However, I think the clash between Arthas and others also highlights the struggle between forging ahead and living by the old ways. Do we hold on to tradition or do we try to rectify the problems we see with it? It is easy to go around in circles or get political with this conversation, but it is a compelling part of Arthas’ story. Maybe the Culling or Stratholme saved many lives, or spared the townsfolk the nightmare of being undead and killing their loved ones then having to cope with that once they were given back their free will as Forsaken?
It was what drove him mad with the idea of vengeance to the point of him committing evil acts later in pursuit of it.
Anub’arak being snubbed of the redemption he deserves
I will because I love Arthas and he did nothing wrong.
He wasn’t correct. You cannot murder people for what they might become. That’s why Uther and Jaina abandoned him. They knew it was wrong.
More like 6 or 7
Vanilla begins 4 years after Warcraft III, then a year later for BC, then another year or so for Wrath, Arthas is killed at the end of Wrath.
You can and he did.
He saved his kingdom for months at the least until he came back home corrupted.
He 100% made the right call if Jaina and uther joined him he may not have used frostmourne. So really the fault is with those two for not siding with the crown prince.
So you do nothing, they die horribly, are condemned to mindless undeath and then kill more people?
At that point they knew what the plague did and they knew what was going to happen to every man, woman, child and dog in there. Doing nothing would have resulted in many times more deaths and possibly the destruction of the entire kingdom.