If there's ever another faction war

I hope it at least makes sense from both perspectives. I hope we don’t have to trash characters and throw others under the bus, or nerf and pretend things don’t exist for the story to make sense.

I like The Forsaken and Worgen conflict because it’s the most grounded conflict in recent times. The Horde wanted a port on The Eastern Kingdoms, Gilneas had been suffering in Genns staunch isolation, it was a ripe and perfect target.

This also created one of the few Alliance leaders who actually wants to fight The Horde, and he has proper motivations to do so.

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Of course lol, we are gonna have the unification expansion that is shadowlands, then we are gonna come back to find azeroth at war again and join 2 different sides to fight each other.

Genius writing there xD

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You better hope blizzard replace their current writing team or have Metzen come back to fix this mess.

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The faction conflict is inevitable. I doubt it will happen right after Shadowlands, but it will happen eventually. There’s too much bad blood and unanswered crimes on both sides.

It would be unrealistic and bad writing to never have us fight again.

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With Anduin in charge, it basically means that if there was ever another war, it would have to be the Horde who starts it…again.

My money is on an Alliance internal strife story between Tyrande wanting vengeance and striking the Horde, Anduin wanting peace and trying to mediate, and Genn caught in the middle between his two closest allies. I would LOVE to see that as a fleshed out expansion / book combo.

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It only takes a few cycles between “we fight, now we are joining forces, now we fight each other again, not we are joining forces again” before the trope gets boring and stupid

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After you finish the war campaign, you can actually find NPCs around Stormwind who think Anduin is stupid and weak for letting The Horde go.

It would be cool to see that blossom into something one day.

If Blizzard ever pulls another Faction War it shows just how tone deaf they are to the majority of their community.

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I feel like a majority of the qualms are not of the faction war itself, just how its written and always the same plotline repeat.

Even though it doesn’t need to be.

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Tyrande will be the Alliance Sylvanas, bitter and infused with hatred for her enemy. A shame, although her cinematic was heartfelt, I don’t really feel as though I like her anymore. When characters go all edgelord I tend to check out, hence why sylvie was a bad joke in TBC then I genuinely boggled as she became a fan favorite. How can you like a dead thing with a horrible attitude problem that literally, moreso than any emo goth, just hates life. How is that attractive? I mean, I was edgy as a kid, real into death, but literally hating life? gtfo with that heavy nonsense.

I recently watched the cinematic where Vol’Jin gives her the position, he says “Windrunner, I never trusted you . . .” Then everything she did from that point forward kind of proved why he shouldn’t have. Bad loa intel I guess. Felt forced, no wonder they say she’s a Mary Sue, Vol’Jin really had no reason to put her there. “The loa said . . .” is just plot contrivance.

I’d even go so far as to say it would’ve made more sense if it was obvious she was the most powerful faction leader (or one of), but no one would put her in charge because Forsaken are the loose cannons, and you never put loose cannons in charge.

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There’s some trouble brewing with Talanji in the new novel. Since Anduin’s involved in the story, it isn’t going to be smooth for the King.

Ooh they keeping Talanji around, I’m not usually into lore or the books but that I can get behind. I’m really hoping ARs become an integral part of the factions and not just an expansion afterthought updated at some point years later.

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This never made sense to me, actually.

Does Lordaeron not have ports? Even if it doesn’t, is invading Gilneas actually easier than just having one built?

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Also, Quel’thalas obviously has a navy sooo…

I realize Quel’thalas is out of the way, but it is still Horde controlled territory. THere was no Alliance opposition North of Silverpine.

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I believe it was geographical.

Gotta remember lorewise the game is very much not to scale. Lordaeron and Gilneas are really far away from each other.

I agree with you 100% on this one. However, I like racial identity and wars not faction based.

Worgen v Forsaken and not Horde v Alliance.
Orcs v Humans.
Goblins v Gnomes.

Its so much better than generic group 1 v generic group 2

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It is a better war when the enemy is narrow and well defined than some mishmash of entangling alliances. Or am I doing it wrong?

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After all the loses both sides endured with BFA and I am going to assume there will be a ton more in Shadowlands, neither side is really in a position to have another war. I don’t see us sitting around sharing beers, singing kumbaya my lord any time soon but I don’t think either side is in a position for another full scale war.

Majority? Source? GD isn’t a majority of anything.

There are players who like and understand why war between the factions, that have never liked each other beyond a few individuals, happen.

We’re not allowed to have interesting flavors and conflicts anymore in Warcraft. Now the Forsaken are Good Boy Paladin types and Genn “understands” them. In modern Warcraft all of the races get along all the time thanks to Daddy Baine and Daddy Anduin.

How boring your vision for Warcraft is.