If the Alliance can't get High Elves, Then Give the Option to the Horde

Ahhh…but the Sin’dorei ARE Quel’dorei, biologically.

it was in the rpg man, it’s literally over a decade old at this point

dude don’t skip context for the sake of skipping context

“before legion” as in we knew it’s general location long before
legion, and Chronicles which was released to be a companion series to legion

proximate and near are not the same thing.
you’re grasping at straws to “prove” a point

there are 3 with various offshoots that came later

trolls (and by extension elves), goblins and dragons

I’m not arguing that. Palestinians and Israelis are biologically the same humans but they are worlds apart.

I believe that the dragons were brought about by the elemental lords, which are also native to Azeroth. Unless I’m remembering my Nobbel wrong!

Unlike blood elves and high elves.

NO. We have 2 elves too many. Go snort some glitter somewhere else.

azeroth (the planet) isn’t alive, it’s a big ball of dirt and minerals that happens to currently contain the soul of a titan

nothing, i mean we’ll notice her leaving but functionally? nothing.
the titans are primordial esque beings, their bodies aren’t formed the way most life is
their “soul” leaves the planet to ultimately form it’s own body, they retain some connection to their planets but it doesn’t appear to be much more than just sentimental connections

nothing looks like argus, it is a special case
one that the legion and it’s fel magic has made a stronghold for a very long time

argus awoke long before the fall of Sargeras and the rise of the legion, and the eredar were fine living there, including velen and those who would eventually flee from their brethren
we have no reason to think azeroth waking up means pretty much anything

they are descended from them,
i’m just still not sure if elementals can be considered actual life or more just avatars of the elemental spirits that are bound to a specific manner with no option for real change

Dude, it was nowhere near the Well of Eternity and wasn’t destroyed during the Sundering or “magically survived somehow”. The Dome went up post-sundering…you know, when the Highborne there began using the Nightwell because the Well of Eternity was gone and started on the road to becoming Nightborne.

That map shows two entire zones between them.

They are exactly the same thing.

not being distant in time, space, or significance

  • the husband feels that their house is a little too proximate to his in-laws’ condo for his peace and comfort

Synonyms of proximate

close, close-up, immediate, near, nearby, neighboring, next-door, nigh

Are we conveniently forgetting all the other races of the Horde? If the Sunreavers were all Orcs, or all Trolls the SAME thing would have happened. Their anger was centered on the Horde, not the Blood elves themselves.

Jaina IS an insane hypocrite, and even she realizes that now, hence the whole “Blood on her hands” line. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not justifying or rationalizing what she did, because it was completely wrong. Simply that “race” had nothing to do with it, it was her blind hatred for the Horde for bombing her home that drove her and Vereesa into what happened.

Again to HER they were not innocent, to her they were the ones that just murdered countless innocent people in Theramore. You keep using “meta” knowledge that they did not posses at the time of the purge.

And? Why would she do it at all if she didn’t care at all for Quel’thalas? Why would her troops put their lives on the line for a cause they supposedly don’t care for? That makes absolutely zero sense.

Give High Elves to Alliance. Give Eredar/Manari to Horde.

Fair trade imo.

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so basically, just give BE which are HEs a blue eyes option and call it done?

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So if I can bother you more whats the difference between a planet with a titan inside and a barren one? Can titan-less planets also have life? Do they just offer protection?

I guess I’m curious what they add if when they leave nothing really changes.

LOL. “Lore-appropriate” means that if you were a Sin’dorei who used arcane enough to change your eye color, you’d become a WRETCHED.

Elementals were the first thing on Azeroth, and Dragons and Dragon kin evolved from them.

Trolls were primitive life seeded by Keeper Freya which then evolved over time due to the energies of the Well of Eternity. This is from the Warcraft Chronicles volume 1.

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they haven’t really expanded on it much, but seemingly nothing on a base level

Dreanor for instance wasn’t/isn’t a titan planet but we know life came and passed on the planet
plant and wildlife alike were plentiful

it’s unclear, even chronicles didn’t really clear things up

they may not genuinely add anything, but they’re also attached to their world on both a sentimental and (seemingly) a physical level (the argus soul machine, but that may be due to the way the legion was using both the planet and the titan soul)

presumably they just keep life in check to a degree, ensuring that while life thrives it doesn’t go overboard and snuff life out on it’s own

does it? i only remember it saying the well caused them to evolve/come into being, not that they were seeded

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On page 39 it talks about how Freya began to populate the world with organic life, as part of the shaping of Azeroth. She first created the Emerald Dream and subsequently the Wild Gods. She also created primitive life in the areas where the energies of the Well of Eternity had coalesced. The only other forms of life were the proto-drakes and their ilk which had escaped from the elemental planar prisons and formed into their own forms of life. So, unless Trolls are related to Dragons, they’re one of the primitive life forms seeded by Freya, especially considering that, on page 70, when it talks about the Trolls, it says they specifically evolved from the primitive life forms around the Well of Eternity. The same place Freya seeded that primitive life.

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that’s less seeding and more creating the conditions for life to work normally

primitive life can include alot of things, including the basis for forests and the microbiology that life requires to function

i mean it could be that she seeded the trolls sure, but without further information that’s hard to say

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The exact quotes are: “Keeper Freya set out to populate the world with organic life.”, “She molded life of exceeding diversity, seeding it around the world.” It also talks about her creating new flora and fauna, and not simply helping existing life flourish.

Sure, somehow, in the bleak and twisted landscape that housed the Old Gods, there might have been some life that somehow managed to live through the arcane torrents that happened when Y’saarj was ripped from the surface, creating the wound that would later become the Well of Eternity. And that it somehow managed to be overlooked while Freya seeded life in the same place. It’s not out of the realm of possibilities.