Never as a backbone, and because they don’t wanna copy other fantasy.
I don’t even know what you’re trying to say here. Looks like you went off topic because you can’t argue against my points.
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Well canonically Kael did and he brought troops with him. I dunno what to tell you. Maybe just observing NPCs isn’t a super solid lore source.
…Fighting against the Scourge?
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You’re joking, right? Warcraft was BUILT on copying other fantasy. In WC3 it went a different direction, but trust me, elves going dark, joining monsters, isn’t anything new in any fantasy franchise.
They have their own problems.
Yep, here we are now.
I’m sure your attempts at trolling really help your cause. Is this a sign that you lost the argument, as you’re not producing new and effective points after I shot down the other ones?
If you look behind your character, the background is red. Deal with it.
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It also shock evolved. Orcs moved on from being Always Chaotic Evil, elves moved on from being Mary Sue: the race.
Maybe it’s time to accept that Warcraft has become less cliche over the last 25 years.
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Indeed, with the elves of Quel’Thalas in the Horde to balance player populations, and a population of helves in the Alliance because it never made sense for the race to go Horde completely, so let’s keep that door open. Opened even further when you consider some of those elves from Quel’Thalas went back to the Alliance anyways, lol.
This subjectivity clashes with the lore of the game.
I get that you’re a bigger fan of LOTR, but let’s keep it Warcraft.
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Such a huge fan that loves to ignore the fact that it was canon that the majority of the kingdom left the Alliance as soon as they had the chance.
Me thinks a real fan would take every single thing into account, not only the things they find convenient.
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Okay, but high elves did leave Dalaran to fight for Quel’thalas. I dunno what to tell you. You can argue they didn’t or shouldn’t have, but they did fam.
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You’re the one whose argument amounts to “we like the Horde better” while claiming that you’re not roleplaying. Let me know when you want to do something other than try and get a rise out of real Warcraft fans.
I’m pretty sure a real fan would blow less hot air.
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It’s also become a mess over the last 25 years if we’re honest. Behold, the end result of building a story purely on shock and trying to bring down cliches. How does it feel to have gone through the same Rebellion Storyline twice in a row? To be betrayed by ANOTHER Warchief? For Sadfang the Orc to have an expansion dedicated to feels to subvert the trope that Orcs don’t have feelings?
Sometimes cliches need to be respected. Sometimes, they need to be explored in subtle ways and means. The belves would’ve been just as interesting on the Alliance as in the Horde. Moreso, in my opinion, if the Devs would have capitalized on the weakness of the Alliance leadership during the early time-frame of WoW. Kael’thas could’ve made the belves a force within the Alliance while Stormwind foundered without a King, Magni was preoccupied with Moira and the Dark Irons, and Gelbin was trying to sort out his refugee population.
Quel’thalas has been in the Horde longer than any temporary union with the Alliance of Lordaeron combined. We’re still with the people of Lordaeron, mind you.
I’m not, that’s just what you keep dishing out to discredit my feelings about the race. Feel free to keep making things up.
You’re notoriously not a Warcraft fan. You’ve been in like, all these threads with the same filth that you demand a Horde race to be on the Alliance because you played the same game as us and prefer the Alliance.
Also, with as much as I was able to respond to your post here, it still contains no argument. I think you’re wrong.
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Honestly, the nelves have much more in common with LOTR’s elves than the helves do. The only thing helves really have in common with LOTR elves is appearance. Culturally, LOTR elves are more wood elves, like the nelves.
Of course some did. Kael’thas is the most obvious one.
What are you arguing? Why is everything always in absolutes? It’s not always all or none.
So your solution to fix things… it’s turning this into a cheap Lotr imitation.
Heh… why am I not surprised.
Yeah, a better setting with nuance and an actual reason to pay any attention to it.
If I wanted another generic fantasy setting I’d stick to Warhammer Fantasy and DnD.
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Another example of all or none.
Warcraft 3 took the story in a clear direction, dunno why people don’t get it yet.
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