If the Alliance can't get High Elves, Then Give the Option to the Horde

I could totally see blizzard doing it.

Their storied history on the Alliance that included being abandoned, betrayed, and even killed as they mourned the loss of their city and the 90% of the population that were slaughtered. Then later the Purge of Dalaran, which included High Elf race traitors helping Jaina murder the Sunreavers.

I’ve told you already: The High Elves are a small minority of elves that reject the culture of their own people. They’re no culture or faction of their own. No component of the remaining High Elves actually makes them High Elves outside of the name. The Blood Elves are the Elves of Quel’thalas, the Quel’dorei reborn in the blood of their brothers and sisters.

Yeah we’ll see chief.

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You’re quite a zealous person haha.

I appreciate it. It’s always nice to see someone so invested.

Hrmn… some people need to take a deeper look at the lore than just what happened to Quel’Thalas during the Third War.

90% of the Kingdom of Quel’Thalas was slaughtered by the Scourge. Only 10% of the Kingdom’s population remained. Of that 10%, a tenth would be exiled for not accepting Kael’thas’ practices and teachings, and relocate to the Lodge in the Eastern Plaguelands.

None of that accounts for the helves outside of Quel’Thalas during the Third War. We know most of Dalaran was evacuated before it was destroyed, and it had a very small force left behind to defend the city. We know of various lodges scattered throughout the Eastern Kingdoms filled with helves. We know that there were helves in the Alliance Expedition trapped in Outland.

In short, there were a lot of elves outside of Quel’Thalas during the Third War. I think a lot of people assume ALL helves also came from Quel’Thalas, that they were never born or became citizens of anywhere else, that they only left the kingdom on business or duty. That’s also false. The lodges alone prove that, but then you have the entire city of Dalaran where helves have been living for thousands of years, separate from Quel’Thalas itself.

I’ve seen folks in this thread argue, “Well, if the factions are at peace, why wouldn’t the helves want to go home and be with their people?” I don’t think these folks have even considered they already ARE home and with, ‘their people.’ In their minds, the race is one unified whole (except for velves and only because those were made playable). I’d say, ever since Dalaran was founded, the helves have not been a unified race, that there has always been two nationalities of helves.

What are the differences between them? Very little on a biological level. I’d say none if the belves weren’t messing with Fel, and then being infused by the Light from the Sunwell. But the cultural and political differences do exist. From what we’ve seen, the elves of Quel’Thalas always viewed half-elves as abominations, the diluting of their noble bloodline. Yet, half-elves exist and have existed since at least Dalaran was founded, since the first Guardian was a half-elf.

Where do half-elves come from? I’d argue Dalaran is the place. They’re only possible because these Dalarani Helves have a different culture, a different perspective on what is and isn’t acceptable, from their cousins in Quel’Thalas.

People need to look past WC3’s campaigns centered on the elves of Quel’Thalas, and at what we’ve seen throughout the rest of the franchise from the helves that lived outside of it. That, my friends, is what people want to play as. These Alliance-Loyal helves who have a very different culture and perspective from their cousins in Quel’Thalas.

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That’s why they shouldn’t be added.

There’s not a single thing that will ever justify stealing a Horde race and putting it on Alliance.

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The Horde doesn’t get eternal dibs on something that has been Alliance-affiliated for longer. The fact that Horde gets to play them now is not realistically a restrictive factor.

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So why do velves exist? They were literally Horde belves, painted blue, and then put on the Alliance.

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Quel’thalas has been allied to the Horde longer than any temporary union with the Alliance combined.

We like the Horde better.

We are Horde.

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That’s fine. The belves can stay Horde. They made their bed, they can sleep in it, mud and spikes and all.

What players want are helves, the race that has been allied with the Alliance longer than Quel’Thalas has been in the Horde.

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High Elves are physically the same as Blood Elves canonically.

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So? Plenty of Allied Races are physically the same as playable races, canonically.

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Nice roleplay.

Unfortunately, you’re wrong and either haven’t been a fan of Warcraft long enough to know the game’s history and evolution or are simply a Horde fan finding any justification for the unfortunate reality of the situations.

I’m sorry you’re not loyal to Silvermoon.

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Of course they haven’t been the same people for thousands upon thousands of years. They speak a different language. They have a different religion. Different culture.

The Thalassian split is absolutely nothing compared to that.

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It stands to reason that every High Elf would return home if the Blood Elves weren’t a part of the Horde. Since we know Blood Elves will never not be Horde (unless the factions go away), maybe the High Elves would get over their hatred and go home anyway

I doubt it, but it’s a possibility

And there have been helves living in Dalaran for thousands of years, so…?

I’m just a Warcraft fan who wants to play the lore I was sold in 1995.

Oh good, then we agree on how detached our government always was from the Alliance, being that they withdrew from the Alliance after the second war ended.

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Here’s a bit of a head scratcher for you. What if the helves, are already home? What if these elves, who were outside of Quel’Thalas during the Third War, actually lived outside of it on purpose, and were citizens of other nations by choice? Would they not already be, ‘home,’ in those nations?

Some of whom also became blood elves.

I know, how awful is it when fantasy settings change over the course of 20 years to be less cliche?

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